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Re: Excellent demo of Ravenscroft 275 (and Kawai VPC1)! [Re: Osho] #2689754
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Originally Posted by Osho
Originally Posted by Pologuy

I wonder if those that thought the CFX was their favorite VST applied these settings... I wonder if they would change their mind... like you have.


I have standardized on 2 VSTs: one modeled (Pianoteq 6) and one sampled (Garritan CFX). Perhaps there are better options (such as Ravenscroft with these settings) - but my personal philosophy is to stop tinkering with VSTs and focus more on improving my playing. It is hard as I love to tinker but I am holding the fort so far smile.

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The only piano I got onto heavily tinkering with was pteq a year more ago, and learned quite a bit how it works and what does what, the others very limited, usually the first few day I own them play around to see what does what, I jut have a few presets after that and play.

The other side of that story is I see frequent discussions where people endlessly play with velocity curves, whereas I take the approach, leave it, lets try and get used to the instrument first of all and gets used to its feel and adapt accordingly to extract what you want, that often work well after a few days in most cases ( for me ).

I find one can adapt to the touch/response of an instrument, just like with a real piano you can't change it, but you have to adapt, I find that approach more beneficial to me. Sometimes I peak the velocity curve earlier if I need loud fortes because my piano pretty much maxes out at midi values 115 or so, I found this particularly important with the ravenscroft where it very much felt like I was hitting a strange volume plateau if I didn't do that, but it would only manifest itself under rather very loud passages. tweaking the curve solved that.

Generally I leave touch curves alone and more likely play with the dynamics setting a bit if I feel it is needed now and then.


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Re: Excellent demo of Ravenscroft 275 (and Kawai VPC1)! [Re: Pologuy] #2794755
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Huh? My first reaction was that he's playing Garritan CFX and not Ravenscroft 275. Are we sure this isn't a hoax?

Last edited by Alex C; 12/24/18 04:53 AM.
Re: Excellent demo of Ravenscroft 275 (and Kawai VPC1)! [Re: Pologuy] #2794767
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I don't have either, but I remember when I whipped down the CFX demo recordings, none of them sounded as closely mic'd and intimate as that. Whatever it is, it's lovely.

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Re: Excellent demo of Ravenscroft 275 (and Kawai VPC1)! [Re: sullivang] #2795041
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Originally Posted by sullivang
I don't have either, but I remember when I whipped down the CFX demo recordings, none of them sounded as closely mic'd and intimate as that. Whatever it is, it's lovely.

Greg.


You can ask for the settings in the comment section and he will email it to you. Somebody with Ravenscroft needs to try this because I can hardly believe that the tone is so close to Garritan. Yes, I agree, it sounds more dry, with less room ambience than Garritan.

Re: Excellent demo of Ravenscroft 275 (and Kawai VPC1)! [Re: Pologuy] #2795470
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Thanks for sharing. Really great sounding demos.
Ravenscroft 275 is on my wishlist for a long time already. Definitely worth buying for me.


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Re: Excellent demo of Ravenscroft 275 (and Kawai VPC1)! [Re: Pologuy] #2795477
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Well, I bought Ravenscroft 275 for 126 Euro, almost immediately applied Shaun Choo's settings, and now it's my favorite piano VSTi.

Re: Excellent demo of Ravenscroft 275 (and Kawai VPC1)! [Re: Pologuy] #2795536
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Good one! Anything special about the settings that you are allowed to share?

Greg.

Re: Excellent demo of Ravenscroft 275 (and Kawai VPC1)! [Re: Alex C] #2795634
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Originally Posted by Alex C
Well, I bought Ravenscroft 275 for 126 Euro, almost immediately applied Shaun Choo's settings, and now it's my favorite piano VSTi.

Could you please share these settings? Thanks.

Osho


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Re: Excellent demo of Ravenscroft 275 (and Kawai VPC1)! [Re: sullivang] #2795638
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Originally Posted by sullivang
Good one! Anything special about the settings that you are allowed to share?

Greg.


You can find it in the comment section of this youtube video. You can download the preset plus a screenshot of the EQ correction he used in his DAW (which you can easily replicate using the 8-EQ in UVI Workstation).

- The preset makes the piano sound less metallic and includes all the mic perspectives except the main close mic, but it actually works great on the close mic perspective too.
- The EQ makes the preset sound more sonically balanced, but you can adjust it to your own liking, of course. Without the EQ, it can sound a bit too bassy.


Re: Excellent demo of Ravenscroft 275 (and Kawai VPC1)! [Re: Pologuy] #2795641
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Thanks Alex for sharing.

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Re: Excellent demo of Ravenscroft 275 (and Kawai VPC1)! [Re: Pologuy] #2796345
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yes, thank you.

Re: Excellent demo of Ravenscroft 275 (and Kawai VPC1)! [Re: Pologuy] #2832073
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VI-Labs - Ravenscroft 275 is on sale at vstbuzz.com for 87Euro (approximately 99USD)

https://vstbuzz.com/deals/50-off-ravenscroft-275-by-vi-labs/


Missed deal ones and thought that will never forgive myself if will miss it again and bought it immediately! smile I'm impressed. It's just an incredible piano! Wish I did it long ago...


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Re: Excellent demo of Ravenscroft 275 (and Kawai VPC1)! [Re: Max_Forte] #2832158
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Originally Posted by Max_Forte
VI-Labs - Ravenscroft 275 is on sale at vstbuzz.com for 87Euro (approximately 99USD)

https://vstbuzz.com/deals/50-off-ravenscroft-275-by-vi-labs/


Missed deal ones and thought that will never forgive myself if will miss it again and bought it immediately! smile I'm impressed. It's just an incredible piano! Wish I did it long ago...

Is this a good deal everyone?


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Originally Posted by Jethro

Is this a good deal everyone?

Well, the last time I have seen a 50% discount was Jan 2018 so I guess this is as good as it gets with the Ravenscroft 275...just be sure you like the sound of it before you buy it.

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