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I just looked at the Digital Piano page on the costco.ca website and noticed that while most of the demo photos on that page are just a piano alone (or a piano with a stool), four of the photos show someone playing the piano. One of them has sheet music on paper in front of her, one has nothing at all, and two have tablets on the music stand.

Significant of nothing important, I suppose, but I guess it's a sign that people are getting accustomed to musicians whipping out a tablet for their sheet music rather than a stack of paper.


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I am somewhat aware of bluetooth options on digital keyboards and integrations with iPhone/iPad devices over said connection. Perhaps the advertisements that feature tablets do so intentionally to make it obvious to the shopper that the piano in question has bluetooth capabilities?

As an aside, when I asked a (former) teacher of mine about putting my sheet music on a tablet and managing things that way, she said it would be better for me to do it the old fashioned way with plain old paper. I got the impression it was like learning to drive a manual transmission before switching to an automatic... gotta pay your dues? Something along those lines, anyway!

Either way, I like the idea of going digital, but I'm enough of a beginner to be happy sticking with plain old paper for now.


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Don't want no stinkin' tablet - can't scribble all over it making clever and witty notes and leaving insightful self-instructions with a runny red pen...and it's no way as impressive as a humongous stack of songbooks and paper sheet music on top of your piano...


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Then there's always the danger of a technical "glitch" in the equipment itself or the possibility that the performer forgot to charge the battery in the tablet. Then what....?

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Originally Posted by Handyman
Don't want no stinkin' tablet - can't scribble all over it making clever and witty notes and leaving insightful self-instructions with a runny red pen.
You can smile Like you, I like the big old piles of music around the place - but there's a cool iPad app `i download scores to and can scribble in all manner of colours! Not quite the same, though.
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My Blüthner is High Gloss Black so nothing sits on top except my hygrometer smile Books and sheet music, of which I have masses, scratch! I have a special book scanner and save to PDF files then I use a Samsung Galaxy Note Pro which has a 12.2" screen. I do have a Bluetooth page turner but I prefer to swipe the touch screen.

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While reading this thread, I had an idea. Has anyone integrated the tablet/digital music score and the piano digital output so that the tablet reads along with the notes played and automatically turns the page when you play to the end of the current page? It seems doable with the piano's MIDI output.

On the other hand, I am a certified techno dufus and could be missing something obvious, which I am well accustomed to! laugh


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...so that the tablet reads along with the notes played and automatically turns the page when you play to the end of the current page?

Try out one of these and see if you like it. I'm using Tonara (sometimes).


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I guess it's a sign that people are getting accustomed to musicians whipping out a tablet for their sheet music rather than a stack of paper.

I’ve gone to way too many Xmas parties in the past 2 weeks ;-p - and nearly all the musicians I’ve seen were using tablets. Most noticeably for me the keyboardists/pianists but also the other members of the trios, quarters, orchestras and choirs. I’d guess around 85% were using tablets almost exclusively.


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Originally Posted by Ralphiano
While reading this thread, I had an idea. Has anyone integrated the tablet/digital music score and the piano digital output so that the tablet reads along with the notes played and automatically turns the page when you play to the end of the current page? It seems doable with the piano's MIDI output.

On the other hand, I am a certified techno dufus and could be missing something obvious, which I am well accustomed to! laugh


I think that the "obvious" that you are missing is that not all of us are playing on digital pianos. I would guess that most of us are playing on acoustic pianos.

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I think that the "obvious" that you are missing is that not all of us are playing on digital pianos. I would guess that most of us are playing on acoustic pianos.

Tonara works for acoustic pianos. I use it without any cable.


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These threads are always funny, because they remind me of similar threads in book forums that I've read over the past years, where people discuss the merits of kindle-style ebook readers. The arguments are very similar on both sides (but what if the battery is empty? But I like the shelves full of books and the feel and smell of paper! I can have my whole library with me at all times. I don't need a reading light. etc.).

What is interesting however is, that over the years I got the impression (purely as a personal impression, not scientifically established in any way), that, especially among those that read a lot (or in our case, that play a lot from the score), if those fans of paper books finally do try out an e-reader, they often become the most enthusiastic "converts" and fans of e-readers (or music tablets).

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grin - good one Frank!


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To be honest this must be one of the few legit uses for a tablet, the main one being of course toilet companion... No wonder the market is in decline, most toilets have a tablet already.

I only have the 9.5 inch iPad, because the big one was too ridiculously expensive. I use an app called forScore, it's great. Not only you can scribble as much as you want, but you can use colors and delete/undo. If I win the lottery I will surely buy that big iPad smile

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I'm pretty much paperless these days, but somehow with sheet music, I still like to have an actual "book" in front of me - but then, like Mosotti, I only own the smaller iPad Pro and it can be a challenge to see everything.

I'm only just learning about apps you can use to scribble in fingerings and the like. I also read about page-turner apps, but whatever I found seemed to require buying their own sheet music - while I use mostly pdfs in the free Acrobat Reader app. I'm not very tech savvy and haven't found a way around this just yet.


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The other day I was playing a few Christmas tunes with a music group in church. The man on piano had a tablet. I don't think he found it a problem not being able to scribble notes directly on a piece of paper. The rest of the musicians (violins, cellos, flutes, guitar, etc.) brought their music stands with paper copies.

A while back before tablets became common, went into a piano store and in the corner was a Roland F-series keyboard with a screen big enough to show 3 lines of music at a time. 1 of the demo pieces was the first movement of Mozart Sonata #16 in C. As you're playing, the music on display would move down accordingly. On top of the Roland was a label saying the keyboard was certified for conservatory examination. Even without a tablet, full-size keyboards with display screens have been in the market for at least 10 years.

When you are with a music group like myself you get pieces of music passed around in .PDFs. Over the years you have a stack of paper big enough to fill an entire shelf.

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forScore has the capability to automatically change pages.

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To be honest this must be one of the few legit uses for a tablet, the main one being of course toilet companion... No wonder the market is in decline, most toilets have a tablet already.

I only have the 9.5 inch iPad, because the big one was too ridiculously expensive. I use an app called forScore, it's great. Not only you can scribble as much as you want, but you can use colors and delete/undo. If I win the lottery I will surely buy that big iPad smile



For the past few years, I have been playing using a stage piano on my PC. My PC has two monitors, the main one being a decent 27" monitor that easily rotates so that I can have it in portrait mode and read music (kindle books mainly) easily on it.

My eye sight isn't great, to be comfortable, I will have my text a little larger than most.

A couple of weeks ago I treated myself to a cheapish stand alone piano (Casio PX870) as I wanted somewhere I could just sit down and play, without distractions, without having to fire up my PC etc etc etc

This is fine except for one major thing. I own no sheet music at all (well I have a Doors song book somewhere). Having Kindle unlimited, it would be very nice if I could access that from the piano. I do have an Ipad, but it's an Air 2, hence also 9.5 " (might be 9.7") .

I will take a look at the forScore app, but I suspect the amount of music I can have on the screen at one time in order to comfortably read, will be too small.

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