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180 Million Notes #2788695
12/07/18 10:27 AM
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So I average about 2 hours a day of practice.

Looking at my current work-in-progress, there are about 24 notes/measure. Each measure takes about 3 seconds to play, which equals 8 notes a second. Some pieces will have less notes/second, some will have much more. But 8 a second (counting the notes in chords too, of course) seems like a reasonable estimate.
That's 480 notes a minute.
28,800 notes an hour.
57,600 notes a day (2 hours practice a day, every day)
403,200 notes a week (I almost never miss a day)
20,966,400 notes a year

Let's just round that off to 20 million notes a year. What's a million notes when you have so many?
180 million notes in the nine years since I restarted.

I'm feeling a bit tired...

No wonder the piano needs some work...

Sam

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Re: 180 Million Notes [Re: Sam S] #2788741
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Sam,
I'm often amazed when I see a professional playing a recital of several pieces, including some big sonatas, from memory. When I think about how many pieces they have in memory, it's really incredible. I just heard that someone memorized all of Chopin's works, I think?

However, do you really play on average 24 notes / measure? That seems like a lot. 6 notes per beat, every beat, on average? Of course chords may have 3-6 notes, and there are 8th and 16th's, etc but still seems like a lot. And with your practice, don't you ever pause for a few seconds or minutes? Just keeping you honest smile Still a +#(*load of notes though!


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Re: 180 Million Notes [Re: Sam S] #2788742
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You're probably only half serious but surely you're not playing 8 notes per second non-stop for all of two hours?


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Debussy Doctor Gradus ad Parnassum
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Re: 180 Million Notes [Re: Sam S] #2788750
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Well, the Bach c minor prelude that I did had about 16 notes per second - that's a conservative estimate.

And the Schumann Arabeske had about 12 a second in the main rondo theme - the contrasting sections were mostly chords, so probably more.

A note here, a note there, and pretty soon we're talking about a lot of notes.

Sam

Re: 180 Million Notes [Re: Sam S] #2788762
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Nowadays people track how many steps they walk each day for cardiovascular fitness. Keyboards should have a counter how many times the keys have been pressed in a year to keep track of brain fitness. The more you play tunes on a keyboard, the more you exercise your brain.

Re: 180 Million Notes [Re: Sam S] #2788767
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So, 2 hours a day, day after day? I guess your wife never just happens to pass by to relate the latest and hottest "intelligence" about that contentious couple down the street; or your old hound dog never whines and moans to be let out to chase that pesky backyard squirrel up a tree; or you're hooked up to an jumbo sized catheter so that you never have to take a potty break and "tinkle" (as my wife fondly calls it); or your grandkids never stop by to play chopsticks at the upper end while you're playing Beethoven at the lower end...or a thousand other things that might interrupt your concentration and execution, diminishing your prized target key count...amazing!


"Difficulties deferred and challenges unmet will eventually return with a vengeance to bite one in the butt." (paraphrasing Chopin)
Re: 180 Million Notes [Re: Sam S] #2788771
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Very noteworthy!


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Re: 180 Million Notes [Re: Sam S] #2788775
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Originally Posted by Sam S
So I average about 2 hours a day of practice.

Looking at my current work-in-progress, there are about 24 notes/measure. Each measure takes about 3 seconds to play, which equals 8 notes a second. Some pieces will have less notes/second, some will have much more. But 8 a second (counting the notes in chords too, of course) seems like a reasonable estimate.
That's 480 notes a minute.
28,800 notes an hour.
57,600 notes a day (2 hours practice a day, every day)
403,200 notes a week (I almost never miss a day)
20,966,400 notes a year

Let's just round that off to 20 million notes a year. What's a million notes when you have so many?
180 million notes in the nine years since I restarted.

I'm feeling a bit tired...

No wonder the piano needs some work...

Sam


Ahhhh, to be a student again. Limitless time on one's hands to ponder the great questions! laugh

Don't forget to prepare for your final exams! grin


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Re: 180 Million Notes [Re: Sam S] #2788857
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Originally Posted by Sam S
So I average about 2 hours a day of practice.

Looking at my current work-in-progress, there are about 24 notes/measure. Each measure takes about 3 seconds to play, which equals 8 notes a second. Some pieces will have less notes/second, some will have much more. But 8 a second (counting the notes in chords too, of course) seems like a reasonable estimate.
That's 480 notes a minute.
28,800 notes an hour.
57,600 notes a day (2 hours practice a day, every day)
403,200 notes a week (I almost never miss a day)
20,966,400 notes a year

Let's just round that off to 20 million notes a year. What's a million notes when you have so many?
180 million notes in the nine years since I restarted.

I'm feeling a bit tired...

No wonder the piano needs some work...

Sam


I don’t do any practice in the usual sense of that word, but I do play like a mad hua and the orchestral effects I like would probably often exceed 100 notes a second because of the frequent thick chords and rapid double notes. Musically, the number of notes is just a statistical irrelevance, but it does make me admire the craftsmen who build these instruments. It took over thirty years of very heavy playing before I had to have the action rebuilt. My tuner for the last fourteen years who did the job assures me it will “see me out”, the precise implication of which conjecture fills me with simultaneous elation and foreboding.


"We shall always love the music of the masters, but they are all dead and now it's our turn." - Llewelyn Jones, my piano teacher
Re: 180 Million Notes [Re: Sam S] #2788905
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Originally Posted by Sam S
Well, the Bach c minor prelude that I did had about 16 notes per second - that's a conservative estimate.


Were you playing it double speed?

Re: 180 Million Notes [Re: Sam S] #2788913
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A lot of pianists play way too fast. Almost makes the music comical.


Always working to improve "Chopsticks". I'll never give up on it.
Re: 180 Million Notes [Re: Sam S] #2788921
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Sam, out of curiosity I checked my note count with Pianoteq. It told me I played 10,139 notes in a half hour while practicing hexatonic scales, one hand only.

Extrapolating to an hour, my number would be 20K vs your 28K.

I make no claims pertaining to the involvement of my brain in this playing, but I'm pretty sure the fingers on my right hand got a workout. smile

Ed


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My fingers are slow, but easily keep pace with my thoughts.

Re: 180 Million Notes [Re: Sam S] #2788943
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Millions of notes played, still it sometimes feel like it is hard to play *one* note well!

Osho


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Re: 180 Million Notes [Re: Sam S] #2789002
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I've only ever played 88 notes ... but I have played some of them more than once!


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Re: 180 Million Notes [Re: TheophilusCarter] #2789007
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Originally Posted by TheophilusCarter
I've only ever played 88 notes ... but I have played some of them more than once!

And which have you only played once? wink


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Re: 180 Million Notes [Re: Tyrone Slothrop] #2789010
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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Originally Posted by TheophilusCarter
I've only ever played 88 notes ... but I have played some of them more than once!

And which have you only played once? wink

You joke, but other than testing a keyboard, I bet there are quite a few very high and very low ones! laugh


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I played all the right notes. But not necessarily in the right order.


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