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How feasible is it to adjust the "stiffness" of the keys? #2786620
12/01/18 12:43 AM
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I'm looking at an excellent piano. Great price. Great tone. Great shape. Professionally-inspected. Etc.

But it is a little too stiff for my liking.

On a scale of 1 - 10, I would say it is a 4 or a 5.

I like to play on a 3.5.

The salesman is telling me they can adjust the stiffness, but, as they say, "a bird in the hand . . ."

So, is this something easy to do? Or is this going to require hiring a tech for $1,500 to do? It could be a dealbreaker for me.

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Re: How feasible is it to adjust the "stiffness" of the keys? [Re: Piano90X] #2786622
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Why not tell the salesman to make the adjustment and then if you're happy with the result you will purchase it, otherwise not.


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Re: How feasible is it to adjust the "stiffness" of the keys? [Re: Piano90X] #2786624
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What kind of piano is it?

I once asked a tech to adjust the touch of a Kawai upright. He did something minor and it didn't change much. I liked that piano and it served me well, although I always felt the touch was a bit heavy.

When I went to buy a grand, I bought one with a lighter touch.



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Re: How feasible is it to adjust the "stiffness" of the keys? [Re: Piano90X] #2786640
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I am with Frank on this.
It is best to ask them make the adjustment. It might not just be the stiffness that you did not like.

Re: How feasible is it to adjust the "stiffness" of the keys? [Re: Piano90X] #2786678
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Fist, Frank gives excellent advice. It takes very little time to lubricate the action and address tight key bushings if necessary. So the dealer should cooperate.

However, before you ask, consider that you may have more control from a heavier action. It might be worth getting used to it.


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Re: How feasible is it to adjust the "stiffness" of the keys? [Re: Piano90X] #2786701
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What did the Professional Inspector say??


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Re: How feasible is it to adjust the "stiffness" of the keys? [Re: Piano90X] #2786792
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I'm doing my best to interpret your post. Your post makes it sound like the difference is very subtle. If there are easy things left to do, like lubrication, then subtle is cheap. If the easy things are already done, then there are are still potential shortcuts with tradeoffs. If those aren't the right solution for you, then subtle becomes expensive.


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Re: How feasible is it to adjust the "stiffness" of the keys? [Re: Piano90X] #2787217
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Sam offers sound advice.

Although pianists use descriptions like stiff or heavy, what it really is is the amount of effort needed to produce the desired volume and the ease of playing pianissimo.

A well balanced 70 gram action with good voicing will feel lighter than a poorly balanced and voiced 45 gram touch weight.

Have them prepare it to your desire and if they can't, move on.

Steve

Re: How feasible is it to adjust the "stiffness" of the keys? [Re: Piano90X] #2787599
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A full regulation job addresses several aspects of which "stiffness" is only one. Others may relate to key dip, speed of return, after touch etc. Doing one often affects the other so its paramount to discuss this with a customer ideally BEFORE starting! I agree that the best course is to have the dealer prep the piano to your own liking first. We have done that many times in our own history and has often been the [simple] price to earn a deal and get/keep a customer happy. What gives?

Norbert

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