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Should I Lighten The Action On My Yamaha #2786245
11/29/18 11:23 PM
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I bought a rebuilt Yamaha U3 about six months ago and got injured a couple of months after buying it. Granted, I might have gotten a little over enthusiastic but the action does seem heavy to me, much heavier than my teachers piano. I was using a Yamaha keyboard up until then with very light action. Can I even have the action lightend up? Thanks very much in advance. Brian

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Re: Should I Lighten The Action On My Yamaha [Re: Brian Sweeney] #2786299
11/30/18 04:28 AM
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Brian, it is no easy thing to alter the feel of a piano's action. There is no overall "light and heavy" screw to adjust. First of all, I think you should get your regular technician to check for basic regulation, and and key and action friction.

Re: Should I Lighten The Action On My Yamaha [Re: Brian Sweeney] #2786410
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Also, have a tech determine whether the action really is heavy. It's possible you haven't adjusted yet although three months is a substantial amount of time. Are you presently able to play comfortably or does it still feel heavy? Are you still injured?

Re: Should I Lighten The Action On My Yamaha [Re: Brian Sweeney] #2786461
11/30/18 01:48 PM
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Going from a keyboard to a real action is a huge hurdle for many. You have gotten used to very little resistance. I have encountered this before.

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Re: Should I Lighten The Action On My Yamaha [Re: Brian Sweeney] #2786478
11/30/18 02:30 PM
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There are a few things to check:

1. Are the damper springs set overly strong? Factories often set the springs stronger than needed for good damping. Your tech may be able to get away with weakening the springs quite a bit. As long as the notes aren't bleeding you should be OK

2. Is the damper to key timing too early? If the springs are strong and the dampers are lifting too early in the keystroke the action will feel stiff and resistant. If you set the damper to lift when the hammer is at the halfway point the action will feel easier. You may even get away with making them lift just a little beyond the halfway point.

3. The hammer springs can be weakened to make the touch lighter. With the Yamaha style spring it is possible to reach in with your finger and compress the spring downward and weaken it a bit. This is actually very quick to do.

4. Make sure there is not excessive friction at the keypins. If you push the key to the side and move it up and down, bearing against the pin, it should still feel smooth and slick. If it resists sliding down while pushing sideways against the pin, the piano will benefit from lubrication.


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Re: Should I Lighten The Action On My Yamaha [Re: Brian Sweeney] #2786551
11/30/18 06:11 PM
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I just now noticed that this is a "rebuilt" U3. There are several things such as what Ryan has suggested that could be affecting the touch.

Did you buy this from a dealer, or online, or from a tech? Is the current tech the one who did the work? Is he/she responsible to a dealer?

I do not suggest you try fixing any of this yourself. It must be determined by someone who knows what, if any, normal parameters have been exceeded before doing anything. Many problems can result from simply "trying this" or "trying that". Accurate knowledge is important here.

Pwg

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Re: Should I Lighten The Action On My Yamaha [Re: Brian Sweeney] #2786726
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Is your bench tall enough to allow for proper arm position in relation to the key height? Some uprights need quite tall benches to get most people up to the proper seating position for playing. Most uprights have their keys higher above the floor than most grands.


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