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Re: Alfred's Basic and ALL in One Adult Piano Course Book #1
Mark... #2779141 11/07/18 11:13 PM
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It pretty much has the same challenges as Over the Rainbow but a bit more complex.


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Re: Alfred's Basic and ALL in One Adult Piano Course Book #1
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Do you think it's okay to jump around the pieces at the end of the book? Like... I've got a pretty good grasp of Somewhere over the Rainbow, but being the time of year that it is, can I skip to Have Yourself a Merry Little Christmas and then go back to the other pieces after the holidays?


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Hello everyone! I'm new here, and just got my piano and Alfred's book 1 on Friday. So much fun! laugh

I always thought I was too old to start learning the piano (40) but actually, I seem to be making steady progress. This could be because I can already read music, due to playing trumpet for 30+ years (although my bass clef reading is still pretty poor).

Anyway, I was burning through the book until I hit the brick wall that is "Blow the Man Down!", and after a few hours of frustration yesterday I quit for the day. Today I decided to go back a few pages to "When the saints go marching in" to review. It turns out that I couldn't play that either, at first, despite having played it a couple of days before! After a number of attempts things came together again, and I could move forward, but taking a lot more care to get things right this time!

I think I was really getting ahead of my ability, and learned that it is definitely not sufficient for me to keep moving ahead as soon as I feel like I played each exercise adequately. I need to go back a few pages each time I begin a new day's practice.

Overall, still happy with the progress, after all, it's been 5 days.

Meeting with my first teacher on Friday this week. Kind of nervous now!

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Welcome Memran! Surely you jest about being too old at 40!! This is a retirement gig for many of us (and a great one at that!). I started with a Teacher (I have zero previous experience at 59) and she has been great. I have to play every piece to her satisfaction before advancing (I generally work on 4-6 at a time) - which is not easy but I am sure it is worth it! Good Luck!


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On to the Blues! Thank God I scored 100% passes at lesson this week, that does not happen often. Teach had me sight read the first couple tunes with her and I did good on the first run. Usually I struggle with new rhythms but this one feels more natural.


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Re: Alfred's Basic and ALL in One Adult Piano Course Book #1
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Originally Posted by Progman
Surely you jest about being too old at 40!!


Well, it's just that I've heard so often that if you don't start as a kid, you're too late. I suppose this only really applies if you're trying to become a professional concert pianist? Maybe there's no truth in it at all, I don't know.

Nevertheless, I'm having so much fun that I really don't care!

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Memran #2780857 11/14/18 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Memran
Hello everyone! I'm new here, and just got my piano and Alfred's book 1 on Friday. So much fun! laugh

I always thought I was too old to start learning the piano (40) but actually, I seem to be making steady progress. This could be because I can already read music, due to playing trumpet for 30+ years (although my bass clef reading is still pretty poor).

Anyway, I was burning through the book until I hit the brick wall that is "Blow the Man Down!", and after a few hours of frustration yesterday I quit for the day. Today I decided to go back a few pages to "When the saints go marching in" to review. It turns out that I couldn't play that either, at first, despite having played it a couple of days before! After a number of attempts things came together again, and I could move forward, but taking a lot more care to get things right this time!

I think I was really getting ahead of my ability, and learned that it is definitely not sufficient for me to keep moving ahead as soon as I feel like I played each exercise adequately. I need to go back a few pages each time I begin a new day's practice.

Overall, still happy with the progress, after all, it's been 5 days.

Meeting with my first teacher on Friday this week. Kind of nervous now!

Welcome!! I started playing last January (at 44), so you're surely not too old wink

Do a search on "Blow the Man Down" and you will see that this particular piece gives nearly everyone a problem--you're in good company!

I'm hoping to get through "O Sole Mio", the next piece (the title escapes me at the moment), and "The Stranger" tonight at my lesson.

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Originally Posted by Progman
Surely you jest about being too old at 40!!

Well, it's just that I've heard so often that if you don't start as a kid, you're too late.

Well, if you had a piano & ageism fear, you've come to the right place. Take a look at the 2nd graph of the latest survey. About three-quarters of the participants on this ABF forum are actually older than you! wink


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Re: Alfred's Basic and ALL in One Adult Piano Course Book #1
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Originally Posted by pathguy

Welcome!! I started playing last January (at 44), so you're surely not too old wink

Do a search on "Blow the Man Down" and you will see that this particular piece gives nearly everyone a problem--you're in good company!


Thanks!
I've reached Blow the Man Down again today, and its definitely better, but still very rocky despite being extremely slow. However, the fact that I can feel the improvement, gives me hope!

I flipped ahead to look at O Sole Mio and The Stranger. They look pretty scary shocked Good luck! laugh

Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop

Well, if you had a piano & ageism fear, you've come to the right place. Take a look at the 2nd graph of the latest survey. About three-quarters of the participants on this ABF forum are actually older than you! wink


Thanks encouraging! There's hope for me yet! laugh

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Welcome to the ABF Memran. You have a lot of it figured out already, having fun.

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Progman #2781269 11/15/18 11:02 AM
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On to the Blues! Thank God I scored 100% passes at lesson this week, that does not happen often. Teach had me sight read the first couple tunes with her and I did good on the first run. Usually I struggle with new rhythms but this one feels more natural.


Congrats on that 100%! I had no idea you were working on 4-6 pieces at once. That's intense! Maybe I should start doing that. I feel like I hit a point in practicing a piece where any further progress is going to be a much bigger struggle. If I had another piece to switch to at that point I could at least extend my practice sessions so I'm getting more piano time in each day...

Also, I'm curious to hear how you like the blues section. It's been a challenge for me, both to play, and to enjoy since I'm not much of a blues person. "Why am I Blue?" was the tipping point, I think, and now that I have that down I find it's a lot of fun to play. I'm hoping that "Good People" will end up being the same, but I'll be quite happy once I can move on a bit more and play songs that I'm actually familiar with (Chiapanecas, Auld Lang Syne, and eventually Greensleeves).

Also, welcome, Memran! "Blow the Man Down" is a great piece. You will love it eventually, I'm sure smile


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Downhill_Fast #2781296 11/15/18 11:53 AM
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... I had no idea you were working on 4-6 pieces at once. That's intense! Maybe I should start doing that. I feel like I hit a point in practicing a piece where any further progress is going to be a much bigger struggle. If I had another piece to switch to at that point I could at least extend my practice sessions so I'm getting more piano time in each day...


I read somewhere that you should always have several pieces that you are working on.... something like, a new piece that you are just beginning, a second piece (or several IMO) that you are working through, and then a piece (or 2) that you are polishing or maintaining.

I like to constantly change it up and work on different pieces. Sometimes it's good to take a break and then go back to a piece with fresher eyes. So, like right now, I'm working on 3 pieces at the end of Book 1, but it being this time of year, I'm delving into a few Christmas pieces from some of my other books. I can definitely see a difference in how quickly I can work through some of the Christmas pieces compared to last year, (the difference being 17 months into this journey compared to 7). I also use Piano Marvel to help with my reading accuracy and speed. It helps keep it interesting.


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Woohoo! Its not prefect, but I can now get through Blow the Man Down, about 80% of the time! Progress laugh

It will need a few more sessions before my teacher hears it, but I have time.

It really feels like a milestone to get this. smile

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I had no idea you were working on 4-6 pieces at once. That's intense! Maybe I should start doing that. I feel like I hit a point in practicing a piece where any further progress is going to be a much bigger struggle. If I had another piece to switch to at that point I could at least extend my practice sessions so I'm getting more piano time in each day...



I have heard the longer you practice the same thing at one sitting, you rapidly stop learning much after 15 minutes or so. Like Gidgetkeys said having songs at different stages is the usual scenario for me also. The most time I do at one sitting is 30-60 minutes. I will do 2-3 sessions a day usually. I like doing something outside of the AIO stuff - I guess at our stage we should just try as much different stuff as we can handle.


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Hey, I hope everybody is getting the Christmas music down.

There is a good discussion on the Teacher Forum about slurs and phrases that I figured I’d mention in case anybody don’t have a habit of reading there.


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Re: Alfred's Basic and ALL in One Adult Piano Course Book #1
Memran #2781663 11/16/18 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Memran
Woohoo! Its not prefect, but I can now get through Blow the Man Down, about 80% of the time! Progress laugh

It will need a few more sessions before my teacher hears it, but I have time.

It really feels like a milestone to get this. smile

Well done, Memran! It is quite an accomplishment--keep up the good work!

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Thanks, Pathguy smile

Now I'm struggling with Lullaby (P95). I guess I'm going to struggle on every page from now on! All good fun!

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It'll get easier. Just like anything...you have to study and practice to learn. You're doing fine. Keep up the good work! and don't underestimate the value of recording yourself.


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Originally Posted by GidgetKeys
...don't underestimate the value of recording yourself.

And I just read in another thread here this idea I hadn't considered of recording a video of myself as a way of improving. I hadn't considered that but it makes total sense that this could really be helpful to improving one's own technique and see the things you are doing with your hands and fingers that you didn't realize you were doing. After AssociateX mentioned this last night, I'm going to start doing this more so I myself can observe what I am doing with fingers, hands, wrists, etc., in addition to listening to the advice of my teacher on these matters.


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There's a Facebook group called Piano Playing Improvement. You can upload video and get feedback about your playing.


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