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Re: New Kengo Kuma Fazioli [Re: MarkL] #2779746 11/10/18 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by MarkL
The design commission was to reflect the architecture of the building. I think the stacked wood captures the appearance of the open balconies, and the solid areas reflects the windows of the offices. I like the building more than the piano, but I'd say it did a pretty good job honoring the design request.


I can manage to agree with the bit about the building being less unlikable than the piano ...

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Re: New Kengo Kuma Fazioli [Re: pianoloverus] #2779807 11/10/18 12:47 PM
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It is a desecration of the inherent beauty of form of a grand piano.

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Re: New Kengo Kuma Fazioli [Re: jarobi] #2779835 11/10/18 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by jarobi
Talk about a dusting nightmare.

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I'd use an electric leaf blower.



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Re: New Kengo Kuma Fazioli [Re: gwing] #2779837 11/10/18 02:19 PM
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It's vile and tasteless.


That's harsh.


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How about 'yet more ridiculous designer junk' ?

edit: sorry, forgot to include 'pretentious'


I think it's ghastly.

Over-the-top custom Faziolis like this surface periodically in puff pieces and videos. If interior decorating is your thing, then more power to you, but these clearly are not about musicianship.



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Re: New Kengo Kuma Fazioli [Re: pianoloverus] #2779847 11/10/18 02:49 PM
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it looks very like Kengo Kuma's design for the new Victoria and Albert museum here in Dundee.

https://www.vandadundee.org/news-and-blog/blog/opening-date

Perhaps they could loan the piano to the V and A for a while and curate a concert series there.... The concert hall here just bought a new Steinway D though, not a Fazioli (I haven't played it).

Re: New Kengo Kuma Fazioli [Re: pianoloverus] #2779859 11/10/18 03:36 PM
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I like it a lot except for the piano parts. The keyboard, music desk, castors, lid prop all look inelegant with the rest of the case, to me. I think it would be a beautiful piece in the right environment otherwise. Maybe it makes more sense with the lid down folded over the music desk and the fallboard down.


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Re: New Kengo Kuma Fazioli [Re: pianoloverus] #2779870 11/10/18 04:18 PM
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It looks a cylinder from an air cooled engine.

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Re: New Kengo Kuma Fazioli [Re: pianoloverus] #2779884 11/10/18 04:50 PM
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Despite some daring designs, there comes a point where the finish of a piano will start to distract from the music. Of course in those cases where the music plays a secondary role, it doesn't matter. Not meant to be negative.

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Re: New Kengo Kuma Fazioli [Re: pianoloverus] #2779901 11/10/18 05:43 PM
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Wild. Interesting to see that Fazioli is getting into the art designs. The piano reminds me of the Regalia building in Sunny Isles Florida:

https://www.miamiresidence.com/sunny-isles-beach/regalia.htm


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Re: New Kengo Kuma Fazioli [Re: pianoloverus] #2780070 11/11/18 11:13 AM
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Harkens back to the old “piano as a piece of matching furniture” idea. Not a fan. If however it really sounded and played like a high end Fazioli, I could overlook it’s wierd ugly design and would enjoy playing it. As long as I didn’t have to dust it 😎.


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Re: New Kengo Kuma Fazioli [Re: j&j] #2780106 11/11/18 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by j&j
Harkens back to the old “piano as a piece of matching furniture” idea. Not a fan. If however it really sounded and played like a high end Fazioli, I could overlook it’s wierd ugly design and would enjoy playing it. As long as I didn’t have to dust it 😎.
I have little doubt that it plays just a well as a non art case Fazioli.

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Aesthetics aside, i've always wondered about the extent to which the art case affects the aound (say vs a regular F212).
In the case of Sauter at least, i've noticed that art case instruments do seem to sound different from their regular counterparts, but whether this is because of the casing or some other factor, i cannot tell.


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Re: New Kengo Kuma Fazioli [Re: pianoloverus] #2780457 11/12/18 04:20 PM
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Harkens back to the old “piano as a piece of matching furniture” idea. Not a fan. If however it really sounded and played like a high end Fazioli, I could overlook it’s wierd ugly design and would enjoy playing it. As long as I didn’t have to dust it 😎.
I have little doubt that it plays just a well as a non art case Fazioli.

But I bet it sounds better than most other “hotel pianos”. 😁


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Re: New Kengo Kuma Fazioli [Re: pianoloverus] #2780533 11/13/18 12:34 AM
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At least the woodwork would act as a sound diffuser in a live space.

Re: New Kengo Kuma Fazioli [Re: RealPlayer] #2780569 11/13/18 06:35 AM
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At least the woodwork would act as a sound diffuser in a live space.


Or just buzz and resonate nastily.

Re: New Kengo Kuma Fazioli [Re: pianoloverus] #2781001 11/14/18 04:42 PM
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We had had many of these Fazioli's enter are market. I have not seen this one in person yet but some of the others are quite impressive.
Each being different and commissioned by a local developer. Our local Fazioli dealer has really done a lot for the brand and has worked with this developer and designers to produce some interesting cabinets. One thing it has done for our local market, it has inspired the desire to own high end pianos. These one off pianos are the talk of the town and there are more coming as the developer is happy with all the results.


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