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Kronos 88 Dexibell s7 rd2000 modx8 let’s talk #2779530
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Hello Forum
I was recently blessed to be able to buy all the above boards
Partly because of G.a.s and partly to see what was going to the the best for me.

I’ve discovered some interesting things about me as a musician and piano sounds in general.

I will update this as I delve deeper into these instruments

First off I wasn’t to say I won’t be keeping the modx8
It’s a great board with great sounds but the keybed is suspect and
I feel I were to get this board in the future I would get the 61 or 76
Either of those platforms are great choices.

I bought the
Rd2000 even though I didn’t like the pianos but I decided that I could always play vsts through the USB port so who cares about the pianos
But after getting the board home and tweaking it as well as doing th uodate j realized something this keyboard likes to be played with intention.

I realized it when I was using the Kronos as a midi controller
And I compared the sound of the midi controlled rd2000 vs the sound of the rd when I was actually playing the rd keys

The Kronos controlled rd2000 sounded more resonant and alive

I said how can this be?

So then I dug in a little harder when I was playing the rd2000 keys and the. I was able to get that muted boxy sound to go away
In any event the update makes a world of difference


Of course the Kronos pianos sound great

I only plan on keeping one or two of these boards so
As I go through the sounds and bring them to my church gig
The Dexibell hasn’t arrived yet but I will be sure to give my impressions

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Re: Kronos 88 Dexibell s7 rd2000 modx8 let’s talk [Re: maduro] #2779535
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With respect it’s difficult to talk because you appear to be making a statement and not asking any questions.

I’m exagerating a bit but it’s like me saying I currently own 4 cars but prefer to only have one car, maybe two at the most. One is red which is nice, the blue car is more practical but I’m not keen on the colour, the black car is nice but shows the dirt and the orange car is stunning but brings too much attention to itself. Now let’s talk.

It appears that you are sensitive to keyboard feel so keep the one that feels the best, only you can answer that question.

Sounds a good idea to get a MODX6 and just keep 2 keyboards.

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Re: Kronos 88 Dexibell s7 rd2000 modx8 let’s talk [Re: sheffsteel] #2779545
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Originally Posted by sheffsteel
With respect it’s difficult to talk because you appear to be making a statement and not asking any questions..

People can offer their observations without asking questions, no issue there!

Re: Kronos 88 Dexibell s7 rd2000 modx8 let’s talk [Re: maduro] #2779598
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I have the RD 2000 and I wished they would have put the Rd 800 action in it , it felt closer to the action I have in my Mp11 which is my favorite , I know what your talking about that when you get to the bottom of the key bed you really have to press harder . I also have the Dexibell S3 which has more of an action that you would find on an electric piano , like wurly or Rhodes . The S3 doent have a ton of sounds but they do have are pretty nice , if I had enough money I would get the S9 because it has more sounds and space for upgraded sounds .

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Re: Kronos 88 Dexibell s7 rd2000 modx8 let’s talk [Re: maduro] #2779662
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Watch out for those MODX6/7 keybeds, as many forums see gruntled players disliking the action for lack of nuance.
I went for the MODX8 and actually like that action a lot. It’s the standard Yamaha GHS action (as in their P125 piano) but allows for some very articulate piano playing, both acoustic and electric. Don’t forget that most of the MODX electric pianos are FM ones, calling for nuances playing the MODX6/7 keybeds won’t cater for.

Re: Kronos 88 Dexibell s7 rd2000 modx8 let’s talk [Re: maduro] #2779673
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Ok I received the Dexibell it does sound really good but the casing of the s7 looks like it isn’t meant for the road it looks like it belongs in the home sort of like a yamaha p series.
That being said I am pretty impressed with the eps and the pianos

Hands down some pretty darn impressive work.

I did return the modx8
To be honest I miss it already.
I love the performance aspect and the sounds it had.
I felt I could emulate any current production song

Ok no looking back perhaps I will by the ‘modx7 in the future or even the montage 7 down the road.

Back to the dexibell
Now that it has arrived I am doing comparisons to the rd2000 to decide which is to remain.

I will be honest it’s not going to be easy
Now that I did the update on the rd2000 and I am loving the sounds
And playing pianoteq through my Mac the rd2000 is stellar
Comfortable and might I say reassuring
Faders amount and quality of sounds.

On the other hand the dexibell has me playing sounds and articulations I have never played before simply because of the clarity of sound especially everything above middle c

If it weren’t for the cheesy look of the dexibell I would have returned
the rd2000 immediately but like I said it just looks like it belongs in a living room. In the corner not on a stage.

I do like the music stand nice touch
And the keys have This feeling of being texture.

ALSO the decibel NAILED the mks20 ep1 and ep2 with chorus
Better than even keyscape or mks sensation or the rd2000

How did they do that?

Just on that alone it’s worth a listen

Re: Kronos 88 Dexibell s7 rd2000 modx8 let’s talk [Re: maduro] #2779674
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Here’s another somewhat strange discovery
While playing the pianoteq Steinway D through the Mac speakers
And the rd2000 through monitors
The piano combination yielded some extremely expressive and intimate results

I remember thinking to myself wow this pianoteq is really good and expressive only to realize I couldn’t really hear the pianoteq ir was the rd2000 that’s I was hearing. When I turned the volume of the rd2000 down only then could i hear the pianoteq coming through. The Mac speakers

It was a mistake and the Mac volume was barely audible
I was playing quietly because it was 4:00 am

So the rd2000 volume was very low too but still drowning out the pianoteq

I will have to revisit this combination of pianoteq and rd2000 stage 1.5 update
I’ve always been a fan of layering pianos so this may be the thing to do I will try it live this sunday

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Re: Kronos 88 Dexibell s7 rd2000 modx8 let’s talk [Re: maduro] #2779861
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I need to update my Roland , just wondering is your S7 updated , the newest is os 4.06 ,and have you tried loading any of the platinum piano sounds . I have the Japanese Platinum grand but they also have the German , Italian and American Platinum grands . On the dexibell I can change the piano sound by turning off the reverb and turning up the hammer noise to 5 and also dialing back the filter wheel a little .

Re: Kronos 88 Dexibell s7 rd2000 modx8 let’s talk [Re: pianomike] #2780871
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No
I have no idea

I will look into this today
I am still trying to justify getting rid of the rd2000
But right now my only issue is the weight

I will look into the s7 updates today

Thanks

Re: Kronos 88 Dexibell s7 rd2000 modx8 let’s talk [Re: pianomike] #2780873
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Interesting on changing hammer noise and reverb settings

I will check this out as well

What I will say
Is that after playing on dexibell for a few days
And then going back to the Kronos

I hate to say it but the dexibell sounds more realistic
I am shocked
I didn’t notice it at first
It was only after
going back to it after a few days away from the Kronos

I’m thinking I must Be mistaken so I will do it in reverse
Play only the Kronos then go to the dexibell

Re: Kronos 88 Dexibell s7 rd2000 modx8 let’s talk [Re: maduro] #2780998
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There is a place in the Menu I think its in the settings ,it will tell what your os number is in your keyboard .On mine the Vivo Grand did not sound good until I got someone to load up the os 4.05 update , since I do not know how to do that stuff .The Japanese Platinum Grand sounds nicer than the Vivo Grand but I still like the Vivo Grand also .

Re: Kronos 88 Dexibell s7 rd2000 modx8 let’s talk [Re: maduro] #2781202
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Thanks a lot I downloaded the files on to my computer for the updates a well as the platinum sounds they sound great on the website demos
I will be loading them up later today

As well as updating
Apparently you can replace your sounds that you don’t use with the platinum sounds

So getting rid of the honky Tonk and out of tune ragtime
And making way for the platinum grands will be the order of the day

Thanks for the info

I my be taking the rd2000 and the Kronos back this week

If I am only going to keep one I may as well keep the best sounding and playing piano
And build around it

If the Kronos was the best piano I would keep it
Or if the rd2000 was the best piano I would keep it
But they are not
It seems like the dexibell really is the better sounding pian

Re: Kronos 88 Dexibell s7 rd2000 modx8 let’s talk [Re: maduro] #2781394
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Your welcome , but just to let you know you have to get rid of a lot of sounds to put on a Platinum piano. That's why I only have the one platinum piano or I would of downloaded all of them .

Re: Kronos 88 Dexibell s7 rd2000 modx8 let’s talk [Re: maduro] #2781398
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What about the Nord Piano 4 ? It has some really nice piano sounds and more can be downloaded. Action is pretty decent too. But its priced a little to high for me.


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Re: Kronos 88 Dexibell s7 rd2000 modx8 let’s talk [Re: pianomike] #2781497
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Originally Posted by pianomike
Your welcome , but just to let you know you have to get rid of a lot of sounds to put on a Platinum piano. That's why I only have the one platinum piano or I would of downloaded all of them .


Good to know I sure enough wanted all of the

But i can’t seem to even do the updates with my Mac

Instructions are for windows systems
Any advice?

Re: Kronos 88 Dexibell s7 rd2000 modx8 let’s talk [Re: maduro] #2781853
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Update
I finally downloaded and uploaded into the Dexibell
One of the platinum pianos and yes they are really really good
I chose the Japanese piano because for church
Alicia keys piano has been a staple and that was a Yamaha grand
There is something about it that makes it quite warm

That being said yes you have to decide several pianos to abandon while you hold on to that Japanese grand
To this I say the following you can’t have everything

I chose to keep the rock piano
Because this seems to be a recreation of the rd1000 piano
Which is a staple sound in gospel

I also chose to keep the vivo upright
Because it has its own vibe separate and apart from the grand pianos
I will go back in and see if i can’t keep the pop piano

If you notice I haven’t said too much about the Kronos
Hmmmmmm

In fact the Roland hasn’t come out of its case since my last gig

So perhaps the decision has been made

My only draw back is that the Dexibell doesn’t have a ton of sounds
However the sounds it does contain are very very good
And if i focus on getting the best
For what i need at the moment I should be alright

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For playing in a band the Roland might be better because it can do almost everything , the Dexibell would be great for solo playing , I am not shore about the Kronos but its probably like the Roland and can do everything . I am glad I have both the RD 2000 and the S3 they are both great boards .

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I admit the key bed on the Kronos is not the best (prefer the RD-800) but the sound is superior to Roland. If the organ was only better on the RD-800...

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The decision has been made Dexibell is the winner by
Audience contentions.

I took the Dexibell to church this past Sunday
And played the platinum Japanese grand

I used pads from the mid sensation to blend

And the minister walked up to me and said I like this piano it sounds better than the one last week.

There it is
Can’t argue with ears that were half paying attention

If you know like I know amateur audiences can’t tell the difference between a harp and an oboe let alone
Comparing two grand piano sounds

So I will Be taking back the Roland and Kronos today

Thanks

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Know surprise there , the Dexibell pianos are a little softer and easy on the ears compared to a lot of manufacturers , and since its a Church band I can see why they like it , but I think in a Rock and Roll band where you are playing a lot of dance music the RD 2000 would work better especially if you have loud guitar players and you want to cut through the mix . Hope you enjoy it ,I really like mine .

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Originally Posted by maduro
The decision has been made Dexibell is the winner by
Audience contentions.

I took the Dexibell to church this past Sunday
And played the platinum Japanese grand

I used pads from the mid sensation to blend

And the minister walked up to me and said I like this piano it sounds better than the one last week.

There it is
Can’t argue with ears that were half paying attention

If you know like I know amateur audiences can’t tell the difference between a harp and an oboe let alone
Comparing two grand piano sounds

So I will Be taking back the Roland and Kronos today

Thanks


Never knew playing in a church band could be so complex . . . .last time I played in a church band, I used a PSR keyboard and all but wrecked it using a car battery to power it outdoors. Time before that, the piano had candelabras and hadn't been tuned for years.
Happy days before computers!

Particularly liked this bit

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Thanks very much for sharing your experiences Madura. I’ve found it very interesting. Especially your comments about the Kronos. I have been stalking one for a while. Largely because I thought it could do everything - as an apparent successor to my Kurzweil Forte! Apparently not!
Regarding the Kronos I’ve also read so many negative things about its Hammond simulation, its distortion effects, its average ep's and its general lack of gig hardened road worthiness, that I’m rather going off the idea.
Could you say a little bit more about the key bed action on the Dexibel S7 in comparison to the RD2000? Which is generally said to have the 2nd best keybed in the market.
Also did you consider the Kawai MP7se or MP11se?
Thanks
Steve


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