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Re: New Roland Pianos [Re: Nordomus] #2778723
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Originally Posted by Nordomus
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Slightly OT but did anyone else (from germany) notice that the HP605 is not that availiable anymore since some time? Cant find it on Thomann-site for example. I was thinking of getting that one, since, as much as a LX705 would be cool, I dont think I can negotiate anyone below €2000 for that one^^.

Well LX-705 is for 2060 euro in this shop smile https://nebout-hamm.com/boutique/piano-roland-lx705/


Damn, I think someday I will just walk blindly in a store to buy SOMETHING. It seems that the possible options never stop^^

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Originally Posted by Markuska
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Slightly OT but did anyone else (from germany) notice that the HP605 is not that availiable anymore since some time? Cant find it on Thomann-site for example. I was thinking of getting that one, since, as much as a LX705 would be cool, I dont think I can negotiate anyone below €2000 for that one^^.

Well LX-705 is for 2060 euro in this shop smile https://nebout-hamm.com/boutique/piano-roland-lx705/


Damn, I think someday I will just walk blindly in a store to buy SOMETHING. It seems that the possible options never stop^^

Wut? smile

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Originally Posted by Nordomus
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Slightly OT but did anyone else (from germany) notice that the HP605 is not that availiable anymore since some time? Cant find it on Thomann-site for example. I was thinking of getting that one, since, as much as a LX705 would be cool, I dont think I can negotiate anyone below €2000 for that one^^.

Well LX-705 is for 2060 euro in this shop smile https://nebout-hamm.com/boutique/piano-roland-lx705/


Damn, I think someday I will just walk blindly in a store to buy SOMETHING. It seems that the possible options never stop^^

Wut? smile


I am currently searching for a DP and the options are kinda overwhelming me. Thought that I could rule the new Rolands out, since I set a limit at €2000, but now I have to also consider the 705 smile

Re: New Roland Pianos [Re: Colin Miles] #2778763
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Re: New Roland Pianos [Re: Colin Miles] #2779473
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Has anybody had a chance to play it and see how the action compares to the previous pha50, and to kawai grand feel 2, casio gp series, yamaha clp series etc?

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Originally Posted by Rohit04062
Has anybody had a chance to play it and see how the action compares to the previous pha50, and to kawai grand feel 2, casio gp series, yamaha clp series etc?


News from Bonners here in the UK is that there will be limited supplies of some models available later this month, eg 706 Charcoal Grey and Dark Rosewood. Some of the models aren't expected until March. Guess these are the polished versions.


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Re: New Roland Pianos [Re: Rohit04062] #2779507
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Originally Posted by Rohit04062
Has anybody had a chance to play it and see how the action compares to the previous pha50, and to kawai grand feel 2, casio gp series, yamaha clp series etc?

Well my local shop MAY have LX-708 near the end of this month so I'm gonna test it IF it will actually happen, so expect comparison from me but not sooner than the end of November.
Even if they won't have it I'm pretty sure I'm gonna buy it blindly :]

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Originally Posted by Nordomus
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Has anybody had a chance to play it and see how the action compares to the previous pha50, and to kawai grand feel 2, casio gp series, yamaha clp series etc?

Well my local shop MAY have LX-708 near the end of this month so I'm gonna test it IF it will actually happen, so expect comparison from me but not sooner than the end of November.
Even if they won't have it I'm pretty sure I'm gonna buy it blindly :]


The thing I like best about my LX7 is how responsive it is. I assume the new LX range will be just as responsive and maybe have an even better key action - and it seems to have a better sound, though I am not wholly convinced by it. From listening to the Dexibell H7 online that seems a much better sound to me and as my local store will soon have them in I am hoping to see how responsive these are.


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Eagerly waiting for some proper comparisons.

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i think the sound is lovely, great bass

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qtst4N2mBU8

Re: New Roland Pianos [Re: Markuska] #2780785
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Originally Posted by Markuska
Originally Posted by Nordomus
Originally Posted by Markuska
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Slightly OT but did anyone else (from germany) notice that the HP605 is not that availiable anymore since some time? Cant find it on Thomann-site for example. I was thinking of getting that one, since, as much as a LX705 would be cool, I dont think I can negotiate anyone below €2000 for that one^^.

Well LX-705 is for 2060 euro in this shop smile https://nebout-hamm.com/boutique/piano-roland-lx705/


Damn, I think someday I will just walk blindly in a store to buy SOMETHING. It seems that the possible options never stop^^

Wut? smile


I am currently searching for a DP and the options are kinda overwhelming me. Thought that I could rule the new Rolands out, since I set a limit at €2000, but now I have to also consider the 705 smile


You can still rule it out. It's 2060 Euros . . . .


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Re: New Roland Pianos [Re: hbejinha] #2780795
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Originally Posted by hbejinha
i think the sound is lovely, great bass

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qtst4N2mBU8

Yeah bass is amazing, even better in videos from Gear4Music: https://youtu.be/A8Myw2cUwTo
Just to be clear the rest of the register seems very good as well but bass seems as powerful as in real concert grand. Especially Petrof I've played recently.

Re: New Roland Pianos [Re: Nordomus] #2780796
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Originally Posted by Nordomus

Yeah bass is amazing, even better in videos from Gear4Music: https://youtu.be/A8Myw2cUwTo


The entire video is in mono. Mono is the great piano leveller, especially when listening through decent headphones; every piano sounds the same in mono.


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Originally Posted by EssBrace
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Yeah bass is amazing, even better in videos from Gear4Music: https://youtu.be/A8Myw2cUwTo


The entire video is in mono. Mono is the great piano leveller, especially when listening through decent headphones; every piano sounds the same in mono.

Why? It doesn't make much sense what you wrote. OK true recording mono levels sound between 2 chanells but it won't level overall dynamics which you can hear in those recordings. Also recording mono doesn't change sound color itself so why would every piano sound the same? I need some detailed explanations, maybe I don't understand something.

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Originally Posted by peterws
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Slightly OT but did anyone else (from germany) notice that the HP605 is not that availiable anymore since some time? Cant find it on Thomann-site for example. I was thinking of getting that one, since, as much as a LX705 would be cool, I dont think I can negotiate anyone below €2000 for that one^^.

Well LX-705 is for 2060 euro in this shop smile https://nebout-hamm.com/boutique/piano-roland-lx705/


Damn, I think someday I will just walk blindly in a store to buy SOMETHING. It seems that the possible options never stop^^

Wut? smile


I am currently searching for a DP and the options are kinda overwhelming me. Thought that I could rule the new Rolands out, since I set a limit at €2000, but now I have to also consider the 705 smile


You can still rule it out. It's 2060 Euros . . . .


Yeah but in cases like this (CA58 is also 2099 here) I am actually quite positive in bargaining. I think most vendors wont break the deal for €60. Unless the €2060 is really the Minimum, but hey - they can still say no smile

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Originally Posted by Nordomus
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Yeah bass is amazing, even better in videos from Gear4Music: https://youtu.be/A8Myw2cUwTo


The entire video is in mono. Mono is the great piano leveller, especially when listening through decent headphones; every piano sounds the same in mono.

Why? It doesn't make much sense what you wrote. OK true recording mono levels sound between 2 chanells but it won't level overall dynamics which you can hear in those recordings. Also recording mono doesn't change sound color itself so why would every piano sound the same? I need some detailed explanations, maybe I don't understand something.


There's no depth, no space, no dimensionality in mono. Part of the nature of a piano is that sound emanates from a large area (the soundboard) and is reflected off nearby surfaces such as walls. Stereo recordings give some impression of this spread of sound, both width (left and right) and depth, because sound reaches the original microphones at different times due to the large area it is emanating from. We're talking tiny fractions of a second but it creates the sense of depth and richness; all gone in mono.


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Re: New Roland Pianos [Re: Colin Miles] #2781037
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Maan, cant they release it alread? The 705 is the last thing I want to try before deciding for a new DP😅

Re: New Roland Pianos [Re: Markuska] #2781165
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Maan, cant they release it alread? The 705 is the last thing I want to try before deciding for a new DP😅

I feel you. Though my local shop confirmed it will be avaible on site in 2 weeks tops so just few more days smile

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Sounds nice through my headphones (HD-570s):



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Originally Posted by EssBrace

There's no depth, no space, no dimensionality in mono. Part of the nature of a piano is that sound emanates from a large area (the soundboard) and is reflected off nearby surfaces such as walls. Stereo recordings give some impression of this spread of sound, both width (left and right) and depth, because sound reaches the original microphones at different times due to the large area it is emanating from. We're talking tiny fractions of a second but it creates the sense of depth and richness; all gone in mono.


While I agree having binaural or true stereo recording is huge for realism, I've always felt that a lot of DPs, particularly entry level models, employ a false stereo separation, that artificially pushes bass notes to the left channel and trebel to the right. In these cases mono doesn't really detract.


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Originally Posted by HwyStar
Sounds nice through my headphones (HD-570s):



Agreed HD 280 pro headphones.


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Re: New Roland Pianos [Re: Nordomus] #2781541
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Originally Posted by Nordomus

Apart from being a very good demo of the new Roland range I think it is also a very good example of how to do a demo.


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Yes this is very good review, I still would like to hear some classical on this piano, but I guess I will have to do it myself :]

Re: New Roland Pianos [Re: Colin Miles] #2781562
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Originally Posted by Colin Miles
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Sounds nice through my headphones (HD-570s):



Agreed HD 280 pro headphones.


Tried it on my HD-595-s. Well, not bad, not great. OK-ish sound. Can't really say from the type of demo. (Why people who demo digital pianos always play the same Clayderman-like nonsense? frown )


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True that. It seems that ALL of those people who test those pianos pre-release don't play classical at all. You need to wait after release when other people will post some videos with different performances.

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BTW this guy says something very interesting in that video https://youtu.be/6yR4pgUU2-w
He says that both of the main piano sounds have dedicated separate processors on board.

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I stumbled on a demo of the FP140, and I was amazed at how much brighter and clearer it sounds than a LX708 demo I just watched. Is the LX series at least *capable* of sounding like the FP?

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Oh I get it - the FP140 used the older sampling/modelling hybrid approach, which sounds better - Roland still haven't accepted that sampling sounds better. Sigh.

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If for some reason you want even brighter sound you can change it via settings, note character I think.

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