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How to feed New String down under other strings? #2779215
11/08/18 07:54 AM
11/08/18 07:54 AM
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East Coast, Canada
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I would like to have your input as to the best way to feed a new string you are changing on a vertical, down through and under the bass strings putting it around the bottom pin and the hitch pins up and in place in the subsequent tuning pin. There is probably a good trick or two etc. to doing this that I don't know about.

I can't operate the "search" real well or I would use that too as I'm sure this has been covered. tks......


Duane Graves
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Re: How to feed New String down under other strings? [Re: Duaner] #2779317
11/08/18 03:10 PM
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I use a long thin aluminium tube. Pre-form the wire with the bend and slide one side of the wire through the tube. Push the tube and wire down to position and hitch the bend. Put a clip of some sort on the bend to keep it in place. Feed the free side under the pressure bar then remove the tube and feed the other end under the pressure bar.


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Re: How to feed New String down under other strings? [Re: Duaner] #2779348
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https://www.amazon.com/Levolor-A7004213281-Heavy-Curtain-White/dp/B00004Z0IC?ref_=fsclp_pl_dp_10


Cut the curved part and voilà! Extendable string installer. (the underside is open so easy to insert string)


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Re: How to feed New String down under other strings? [Re: Duaner] #2779378
11/08/18 06:32 PM
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I have seen others using the curtain rod / tube method, and it does look like it helps a lot.

I have always pre-bent the wire, then place the bent wire against the strings at the tenor break, and under the bass strings. Feed the wire towards the bass side of the piano, then after it is far enough swing it down and over towards the hitch pin it is intended for.

Once roughly in place for the hitch pin, use needle-nose pliers to hook it on the pin and small vice-grips to hold it there, then use the needle nose to hook the string into the bridge pins.

The key is not trying to feed the wire straight down, parallel to the existing treble strings. The new wire will always thread in-between. If it is inserted sideways at the break, the process of swinging it down and over to the hitch pin can be done without the string getting in-between the others.

Most of the time. :-)


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Re: How to feed New String down under other strings? [Re: Chris Leslie] #2779388
11/08/18 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Chris Leslie
I use a long thin aluminium tube. Pre-form the wire with the bend and slide one side of the wire through the tube. Push the tube and wire down to position and hitch the bend. Put a clip of some sort on the bend to keep it in place. Feed the free side under the pressure bar then remove the tube and feed the other end under the pressure bar.


Hi Chris. About what diameter aluminum tube do you use 1/4 or 3/8 I'm thinking....and why aluminum and not plastic or copper....curious.


Duane Graves
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Re: How to feed New String down under other strings? [Re: Duaner] #2779396
11/08/18 08:33 PM
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The tube I use has 3/8 inch outer diameter.
Does not have to be aluminium.


Chris Leslie ARPT
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Re: How to feed New String down under other strings? [Re: KawaiDon] #2779415
11/08/18 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by KawaiDon
I have seen others using the curtain rod / tube method, and it does look like it helps a lot.

I have always pre-bent the wire, then place the bent wire against the strings at the tenor break, and under the bass strings. Feed the wire towards the bass side of the piano, then after it is far enough swing it down and over towards the hitch pin it is intended for.

Once roughly in place for the hitch pin, use needle-nose pliers to hook it on the pin and small vice-grips to hold it there, then use the needle nose to hook the string into the bridge pins.

The key is not trying to feed the wire straight down, parallel to the existing treble strings. The new wire will always thread in-between. If it is inserted sideways at the break, the process of swinging it down and over to the hitch pin can be done without the string getting in-between the others.

Most of the time. :-)


This saves dragging another tool (pipe etc) around with me.....need to think this over a little though. I do like your way of doing this KawaiDon. Trouble is you don't get a lot of practice changing strings and so I never know what is the best way for me.


Duane Graves
www.pianotuningfredericton.com

"Pushin 70...still haven fun I think..."
Re: How to feed New String down under other strings? [Re: Duaner] #2779543
11/09/18 12:54 PM
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I use a gun cleaning rod. I have a groove filed in the end where the string goes. Put the bend in the string and tape it to the rod with a little masking tape. It will slide down as far as you need. Loop it around the pin and secure it with a metal hemostat on the pin.


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