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What is the best digital piano for the kids? #2752114
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Hi, I want my boy (10 years old) to learn piano. Someone suggest me to start with a cheap digital piano. Is it a good move? If so, what is the best digital piano at an affordable price?


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Re: What is the best digital piano for the kids? [Re: Rachelbesty] #2752132
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Originally Posted by Rachelbesty
Hi, I want my boy (10 years old) to learn piano. Someone suggest me to start with a cheap digital piano. Is it a good move? If so, what is the best digital piano at an affordable price?


Hi,

A digital piano should be just fine for a child beginner, at least for the first few years as you figure out whether they will stick with it for the long haul.

To that end, a "budget" digital piano works well. We're talking $400-600 new, 88-key, graded, hammer-weighted action. What you'll find in this price range is something like the Casio Privia PX-160 or Yamaha P45 or P115 or P125. Note that you might need to budget an extra $100 or more for a piano stand and a bench.

You may be tempted to go for a $300 (or less) semi-weighted or unweighted keyboard, particularly one with fewer than 88 keys. While a beginner won't use all the keys on a full-length keyboard, most people agree that learning on anything less than a fully-weighted keyboard is doing a disservice to the student, as they won't develop the proper feel and dynamics that will translate to playing on a real piano. So consider such a trade-off carefully.


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Re: What is the best digital piano for the kids? [Re: Rachelbesty] #2752138
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This is a question that comes up time and time again on these forums.

The simple answer is that you should get a keyboard with 88 weighted keys if he is serious about learning piano, and from then on the best that you can afford, subject ALWAYS to trying it in the shop to see that you are happy with it. However that is just the simple answer, and without knowing your circumstances (neighbours who may be disturbed by practicing?, ultimate goal and likelyhood of having to play acoustic pianos) its difficult to say with that or an acoustic (upright) is the best direction.

In approximate terms that are 4 models of digital to consider seriously at the entry level (keyboards with speakers, but no "furniture")
These are (in no particular order)
Yamaha P125
Kawai ES110
Roland FP30
Casio PX160

All of these come with the ability to add a wooden stand with pedals for an about 50% increase in price. Although if you didn't add that you would have to buy a something like a cross stand for the basic piano, although they are very cheap. and (probably) a better sustain pedal (also not too expensive)

Be aware at that price the actions in these pianos have limitations that a beginner will start to run up against in about 3 or 4 years. They can be overcome (there are youtube videos of very advanced players using them) but probably not ideal

Re: What is the best digital piano for the kids? [Re: Rachelbesty] #2752147
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And there are also "bad" digital pianos out there trying to lure clueless buyers, so beware. wink

Depending where you live, there may be various less known brands whose quality vary. Some may be perfectly usable and there may even be positive reviews from clueless buyers. Typically something like "We got this for our kid and OMG!!! It sounds JUST LIKE a real piano!" (No, it doesn't.) Or they report how the delivery process went smoothly and the piano looks nice in the living room.

So, useless reviews basically.

Some non-Yamaha/Kawai/Roland/Korg/Dexibell/Casio products may of course be just fine. Like e.g. some Kurzweils. But not all of them seem that great.

Re: What is the best digital piano for the kids? [Re: clothearednincompo] #2752161
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I have to agree with clothearednincompo.

Stick with the name brands: Yamaha, Kawai, Roland, Casio. (I'd add Korg and Dexibell, but I don't know whether they sell low-cost units.)

And ... avoid other brands. Williams is one to avoid.

Re: What is the best digital piano for the kids? [Re: clothearednincompo] #2776605
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I bought my daughter a Casio PX-160 a couple years ago and must say it sounds better, in some cases, than the Yamaha CLP-280 the movers just dropped and broke. Not nearly as attractive or room-filling sound, though.

Still, a beautiful instrument for a beginner whose dad is mobile and who refuses to pay the price for a quality upright till he's through with moving every 2 years... :-) This piano will serve her well for at least a few more years, by which time I'll be putting down roots...

I looked at Yamaha and Williams offerings as well. The keyboard feel and expression of the PX-160 was on par with the Yamaha and sound of the PX-160 was better than the others...which surprised me. Highly recommended, if your needs preclude purchase of a good new or used upright acoustic.

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Re: What is the best digital piano for the kids? [Re: akc42] #2776618
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Use this list as your base line. They are a good place to start. Get the stand and 3 pedal option.
Originally Posted by akc42
Yamaha P125
Kawai ES110
Roland FP30
Casio PX160


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Re: What is the best digital piano for the kids? [Re: Rachelbesty] #2778943
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I can recommend two pianos from Yamaha. First is this reface
https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/RefaceCP--yamaha-reface-cp
It's easy to use and it have great tone for it's price. Second is Yamaha P45
https://musicsquare.co.uk/156856_Yamaha-P-45-B-digital-piano-black.html
and for me it is better for working on articulation. I like that graded keyboard

Re: What is the best digital piano for the kids? [Re: blank898] #2778979
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Originally Posted by blank898
I can recommend two pianos from Yamaha. First is this reface
https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/RefaceCP--yamaha-reface-cp
It's easy to use and it have great tone for it's price. Second is Yamaha P45
https://musicsquare.co.uk/156856_Yamaha-P-45-B-digital-piano-black.html
and for me it is better for working on articulation. I like that graded keyboard


The Yamaha "Reface" line _does not_ have weighted keys,
. . . and its keys aren't full-size (they're "mini-keys"),
. . . and it's a very short keyboard -- 37 keys -- as opposed to 88 on a piano.

So you can't really play it two-handed. The mini-key spacing will throw off your finger-work when you try to play a standard-size keyboard. And your "touch" will be really, really different than it needs to be, for a piano. (I speak from experience on that --- my microKorg has 37 mini-keys).

IMHO, for learning piano, it's a bad choice. (I agree that the sound generator is good -- nice EP sounds and effects.)

The P45 _does_ have weighted keys -- 88 of them, full-size. It would be OK as a beginner's instrument.


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Re: What is the best digital piano for the kids? [Re: Rachelbesty] #2779031
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Re: What is the best digital piano for the kids? [Re: Rachelbesty] #2779188
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Originally Posted by Rachelbesty
Hi, I want my boy (10 years old) to learn piano. Someone suggest me to start with a cheap digital piano. Is it a good move? If so, what is the best digital piano at an affordable price?


Yamaha P125
Casio PX160
Roland FP30
Kawai ES110

Suggest you forget the casio as it's not quite as good due to it being older tech.

Other options are second hand market. Perhaps the Kawai ES7 or Yamaha CP300 would be good value for money.


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