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I don't believe this is true #2778495
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This guy claims to have just started taking piano lessons and can play these pieces. All under a year of starting. I say NO WAY. What do you all think? Is it possible?

He's playing Fur Elise at week 3! come on! No way.
Maple Leaf Rag flawlessly at month 6. yeah right.
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watch this video. I don't believe this is possible.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqsibzAiIBs

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Re: I don't believe this is true [Re: ZanderChicago] #2778503
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I believe it. It's not as unusual as you might think. You have to take his whole history into account, not just piano playing.

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Re: I don't believe this is true [Re: ZanderChicago] #2778517
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It is well done.

It looks believable ….

But I don't believe it.


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Re: I don't believe this is true [Re: ZanderChicago] #2778522
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In another year or two tops, he’ll be playing at Carnegie Hall.


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Re: I don't believe this is true [Re: ZanderChicago] #2778523
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Hey it's on the Internet, so it must be real.

Re: I don't believe this is true [Re: ZanderChicago] #2778529
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It's only the A section of Fur Elise that is played and I could see someone memorizing that quickly. Now why he pops up the word PRO when hammering down on that high E, well, I don't know. I like to play that note gently.


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Re: I don't believe this is true [Re: ZanderChicago] #2778530
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I don't know, listening to the playing he sounds pretty close to my level in his ability to play, make his sound actually musical and play at tempo (i.e. he's really not particularly good, I would peg as early intermediate like myself.) He says he practices 3 hours a day, and is very consistent about it. Extrapolating from my own experience, I've been playing about 2.5 years, however I typically only get about 1 to 1.5 hours a day of practice, and I've had some gaps (a month vacation, missed weekend etc.) I'd put him almost exactly at the same number of hour practiced. And he didn't play anything I didn't (or couldn't, I haven't played all of the songs) at approximately the same "time" in hours. He's also younger than me by quite a bit and probably more dexterous and still has some neurons to develop laugh And, we only hear snippets of some things, mostly the easier parts (like Fur Elise) and I think the Joplin is a simplified version (though not sure.)

Similar to him, I had no prior experience playing piano, though I had a fair amount of musical training in my school years with choral singing. And, though I've never actually studied, I could at least basically read music and knew the keys on the keyboard enough to play a simple tune of one note on one hand.

And edit, meant to say this but forgot, I think he's way to early to be playing Op 66. I think he's setting himself up for a lifetime of playing it poorly. But that's just my opinion.

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Re: I don't believe this is true [Re: squidbot] #2778543
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Originally Posted by squidbot
And edit, meant to say this but forgot, I think he's way to early to be playing Op 66. I think he's setting himself up for a lifetime of playing it poorly. But that's just my opinion.
It may be too early for this piece. but playing it poorly at this stage does not mean he can't play it much better later on.

Re: I don't believe this is true [Re: ZanderChicago] #2778548
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It's possible but make no mistake, it's very rapid progress.

Re: I don't believe this is true [Re: ZanderChicago] #2778568
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Maple leaf rag certainly was not faultless !

The latest Chopin video no 9 no 1 was actually more impressive than this year progress video.

Re: I don't believe this is true [Re: ZanderChicago] #2778576
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I noticed that the decor for the piano changes with every piece he plays. Do you think he really moves the piano from room to room? How many rooms?

Re: I don't believe this is true [Re: Dreamingstill] #2778579
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Originally Posted by Dreamingstill
I noticed that the decor for the piano changes with every piece he plays. Do you think he really moves the piano from room to room? How many rooms?


The Yamaha upright seems to have been moved once from the room with the woodwork to a room with white walls. OTT, it's different pianos and some of the small stuff in the background gets moved around.


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Re: I don't believe this is true [Re: Dreamingstill] #2778580
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Originally Posted by Dreamingstill
I noticed that the decor for the piano changes with every piece he plays. Do you think he really moves the piano from room to room? How many rooms?


You really haven't been paying attention, have you?


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Re: I don't believe this is true [Re: ZanderChicago] #2778593
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This is absolutely real. His opening piece is 'To Zanarkand' from the Final Fantasy video game series written by Nobuo Uematsu. I fell in love with this piece after hearing it when I first started playing piano. I had no idea how to play it and the score was way over my head at the time. Irregardless, I loved this piece and was determined to do whatever it took to learn it.

So I started to play it by learning one or two new bars everyday and then kept replaying the piece up until what I have learned. After a week of doing this, I ended up learning (and memorizing) the piece. I then kept playing it over and over until I could add my own subtle touches to it.

I couldn't play anything else, but I could play the heck out of this one beautiful piece even though I really couldn't sightread or play by ear yet.

So YES, you CAN learn to play a piece beautifully, even if you really don't know how to play just by learning one or two bars a day and then replaying what you've learned over and over until you have the whole piece under your grips. I can't tell you how many times I've done this as this is what true hacks do!

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Re: I don't believe this is true [Re: ZanderChicago] #2778602
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Who cares whether this guy is for real or not. It’s not healthy to get into a competitive comparison. Just keep plugging away.



Re: I don't believe this is true [Re: PianogrlNW] #2778603
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Originally Posted by PianogrlNW
Who cares whether this guy is for real or not. It’s not healthy to get into a competitive comparison. Just keep plugging away.

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Re: I don't believe this is true [Re: ZanderChicago] #2778625
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It's entirely believable, because his playing is terrible. It's another perfect example of why one shouldn't play things way above his level... I say "his" because all the "my piano progress" video I've seen have been males smile

There seems to be this misconception that if you somewhat get the notes right it's done, the piece is learnt. Nevermind the rhythm, the tempo, the dynamics, the music itself cool

Re: I don't believe this is true [Re: mr_super-hunky] #2778633
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Originally Posted by mr_super-hunky
This is absolutely real. His opening piece is 'To Zanarkand' from the Final Fantasy video game series written by Nobuo Uematsu. I fell in love with this piece after hearing it when I first started playing piano. I had no idea how to play it and the score was way over my head at the time. Irregardless, I loved this piece and was determined to do whatever it took to learn it.

So I started to play it by learning one or two new bars everyday and then kept replaying the piece up until what I have learned. After a week of doing this, I ended up learning (and memorizing) the piece. I then kept playing it over and over until I could add my own subtle touches to it.

I couldn't play anything else, but I could play the heck out of this one beautiful piece even though I really couldn't sightread or play by ear yet.

So YES, you CAN learn to play a piece beautifully, even if you really don't know how to play just by learning one or two bars a day and then replaying what you've learned over and over until you have the whole piece under your grips. I can't tell you how many times I've done this as this is what true hacks do!


I bet a lot of us started that way compulsively playing our favorite piece far out of reach. There is really no avoiding it as the beginner has to play that one song until the itch is satisfied.


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Re: I don't believe this is true [Re: ZanderChicago] #2778642
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Why does it matter?

Re: I don't believe this is true [Re: ZanderChicago] #2778649
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Can't edit. That question was addressed to the OP. smile I'm sort of thinking that it doesn't matter.

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