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Re: DIGITAL PIANO "PRICES PAID" --- NEW THREAD [Re: Horwinkle] #2760234
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MODEL: FP-30, with matching stand and pedal-unit
CONDITION: NEW
PRICE PAID: 5000 DKK (approx. $765, or 670€, or £600)
DELIVERY CHARGE: N.A.
VENDOR LOCATION: Århus, Denmark
VENDOR NAME: Juhl-Sørensen A/S (aka digitalpiano.dk)
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Re: DIGITAL PIANO "PRICES PAID" --- NEW THREAD [Re: Horwinkle] #2760674
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PRICE PAID: $3250 delivered
DELIVERY CHARGE: included
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VENDOR NAME: Multiple PA\NJ Dealers
PURCHASE DATE: August 2018

Re: DIGITAL PIANO "PRICES PAID" --- NEW THREAD [Re: Horwinkle] #2760679
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PRICE PAID: €5300 (+AG N1 trade in) tax included
DELIVERY CHARGE: included
VENDOR LOCATION: Naples, Italy
VENDOR NAME: Panharmonikon
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Re: DIGITAL PIANO "PRICES PAID" --- NEW THREAD [Re: Horwinkle] #2774002
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This thread was made un-sticky three months ago. It is now linked into the "Master Sticky Thread".
It seems, though, that this change has made the thread nearly invisible. It has received only a half dozen posts duing these months.
Surely more people have purchased pianos this summer?

I think that it ought be made sticky once again so that it stays near the top of the list for better visibility ... and for more posts.
Opinions?

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Re: DIGITAL PIANO "PRICES PAID" --- NEW THREAD [Re: Horwinkle] #2774013
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I wad thinking of making the same suggestion. The master sticky thread is great to find a top thread you're actively looking for, but if the thread isn't above the fold on the home page, it's out of sight out of mind.

Apparently there's a delicate balance between top threads that need to be visible to remind people to contribute, and ones that just need to be accessible on demand without taking up screen real estate.

I'd vote to raise this thread back to the top level.


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Re: DIGITAL PIANO "PRICES PAID" --- NEW THREAD [Re: Gombessa] #2774028
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Originally Posted by Gombessa


I'd vote to raise this thread back to the top level.


+1

Re-sticky this thread!


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Re: DIGITAL PIANO "PRICES PAID" [Re: Horwinkle] #2774035
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-1....link in master sticky

could change name of master sticky to info center or something more descriptive.
also remove the useless text and organize the links better.

but zero reason to add a stcky thread to take room at top.
especially a thread that is mostly historical.

just say NO to stickies! thumb


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Re: DIGITAL PIANO "PRICES PAID" [Re: Horwinkle] #2774037
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Agree this should be a sticky again. While many long-term readers knew where to find it, I think the move to the master thread folder hid it from many newer readers and, this, weakened its strength as an information database. If new people -- the ones most likely to have purchased a piano -- can't find it, they're not posting the details of their purchase.

Importantly, it's not a question of whether they could find it. It's whether or not they would even know to look.

Edit: Of course if the idea is to protect dealers from price competition and decrease street price transparency in various markets, then making this thread a sticky again would not help.

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Re: DIGITAL PIANO "PRICES PAID" [Re: Horwinkle] #2774074
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I was not the first to suggest that there be a master sticky ... with the Prices Paid thread and other threads linked inside of it.
But I was chief architect of its implementation. So blame me for the downside that resulted.

I see there's good support for re-stickifying the Prices Paid thread: Agent 88, ArtlessArt , Gombessa.
So ... a couple of things:
1. I'll wait a while to see how others respond to this idea, partly because more input would be good, and partly because I'm busy today with a wedding this evening and a return flight home tomorrow.
2. If the idea holds up I think some additional input would be valuable, as in Jefso's suggestion to "remove the useless text and organize the links better" in the master sticky. So ... please make specific suggestions about that.,

Re: DIGITAL PIANO "PRICES PAID" [Re: MacMacMac] #2774093
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Originally Posted by MacMacMac
I see there's good support for re-stickifying the Prices Paid thread: Agent 88, ArtlessArt , Gombessa.

yeah, if there were a total of 5 forum members, that would be good support....

come on, posters against stickies! speak up!

one sticky properly titled and organized, with all the links is all that’s needed.


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Re: DIGITAL PIANO "PRICES PAID" [Re: jeffscot] #2774098
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Originally Posted by Jefsco
Originally Posted by MacMacMac
I see there's good support for re-stickifying the Prices Paid thread: Agent 88, ArtlessArt , Gombessa.

yeah, if there were a total of 5 forum members, that would be good support....

come on, posters against stickies! speak up!

one sticky properly titled and organized, with all the links is all that’s needed.


Most people won't read a "General Stickies" post. I know I don't. Seeing a sticky "Prices Paid" thread is very interesting and worthwhile. When it lost its sticky status, I assumed it was gone. Please bring it back.

Re: DIGITAL PIANO "PRICES PAID" [Re: Horwinkle] #2774110
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It would be nice to have this thread back into the light again.


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Re: DIGITAL PIANO "PRICES PAID" [Re: Horwinkle] #2774113
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Yes, it's nearly useless if it's not obviously visible in the way it used to be. Let "Prices Paid" out into the light again!

Re: DIGITAL PIANO "PRICES PAID" [Re: pwl] #2774117
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Originally Posted by pwl
Yes, it's nearly useless if it's not obviously visible in the way it used to be. Let "Prices Paid" out into the light again!


I liked the idea of consolidating stickies.

But after a half-year, I don't see much posting or activity. Given the usefulness of the data, it probably makes sense to wind down the consolidation and return to the old way. . .

Re: DIGITAL PIANO "PRICES PAID" [Re: R111] #2774156
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Originally Posted by R111
Most people won't read a "General Stickies" post. I know I don't. Seeing a sticky "Prices Paid" thread is very interesting and worthwhile. When it lost its sticky status, I assumed it was gone. Please bring it back.

yes, i would agree with you about something titled ‘general stickies’ or ‘master sticky’.
neither is descriptive of what is included in the thread.

give it a title that would draw people into the thread, and keep their interest.

plus i seem to recall posts about people not posting prices paid, even when it was a stand alone sticky.
most of the data isn’t current, and is split between different countries, with different currencies and pricing structures....
personally don’t find the ‘prices paid’ thread of much use.


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Re: DIGITAL PIANO "PRICES PAID" [Re: Horwinkle] #2774269
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Call it “Sticky World: Prices Paid and Other Stickies” wink

Re: DIGITAL PIANO "PRICES PAID" [Re: Horwinkle] #2774503
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CONDITION: NEW
PRICE PAID: SL88 Grand: 730 Euro, SLP3-D 73 Euro
DELIVERY CHARGE: N.A., collected in shop
VENDOR LOCATION: Bologna, Italy (but available at the same price in Torino and Roreto shops of the same retailer)
VENDOR NAME: Merula (https://www.merula.com/)
PURCHASE DATE: October 2018

Re: DIGITAL PIANO "PRICES PAID" [Re: Horwinkle] #2774541
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PRICE PAID: 11 600 PLN (approx 2700 Euro)
DELIVERY CHARGE: included (without carrying upstairs)
VENDOR LOCATION: Gdynia, Poland
VENDOR NAME: pianostore.pl (branch of drumstore.pl)
PURCHASE DATE: August 2018

Re: DIGITAL PIANO "PRICES PAID" [Re: Horwinkle] #2774702
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I've asked the moderator to re-sticky this thread.
We'll see whether he accepts this request.

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Thanks Mac. Hopefully the mods can also clean up these off-topic strawpoll thread postings as well (including this one).


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Re: DIGITAL PIANO "PRICES PAID" [Re: jeffscot] #2774781
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I haven't asked the moderator to re-title the master sticky, nor to re-organize its content ...
Originally Posted by Jefsco
could change name of master sticky to info center or something more descriptive.
also remove the useless text and organize the links better.
... but perhaps I should.

Can you ...
1. Suggest a new title?
2. Provide new content for that sticky? Maybe take a copy of its content, make your edits, and PM me with the revised content?

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I have been away for a bit and just saw the recent postings on this thread.

I strongly support the idea of making the Prices Paid thread a separate sticky. It used to be an active and useful thread and has all but gone dormant.

Thanks, MacMacMac, for your efforts in this regard.

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PRICE PAID: $349 including shipping
DELIVERY CHARGE: See above
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Re: DIGITAL PIANO "PRICES PAID" [Re: Horwinkle] #2776127
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VENDOR NAME: Viet Sang Keyboard
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Re: DIGITAL PIANO "PRICES PAID" [Re: Horwinkle] #2777957
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VENDOR LOCATION: Germany
VENDOR NAME: Thomann
PURCHASE DATE: Oct 2018
Bundle deal which included bench and headphones.

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