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Re: November Piano Bar [Re: Tim Adrianson] #2777969
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Originally Posted by Tim Adrianson
Pianist685 [...] In the second portion of each go-around, you added a chord change, really an entire phrase, that I don't have in the arrangement I possess (and it was published in 1954) -- was that something you ghosted in yourself? It works quite well, IMO -- makes it more interesting.
My rendition was not intended to refer to Nat Cole's version from the 1950s but rather to Chaplin's original composition from 1936 which I heard several times on the radio and there the second portion of each go-around is exactly the way I am playing it, however, Nat Cole "simplified" the piece and omitted this chord change.

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Re: November Piano Bar [Re: Pianist685] #2777972
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Hi Tim, thanks for listening and your comments. I am not sure what you mean about four measures repeating. Perhaps you might explain a bit more.

As far as acoustic vs. digital rendering, I listened to your recordings, and while your playing is fine and the transcriptions beautiful I, respectfully, prefer the clarity and presence of a digital recording of quality software to a somewhat muddy and distant representation of an acoustic as I heard here. Having the best mics, great acoustic environment, and skillful knowledge of mic placement and recording techniques are a lot to ask of people who are primarily musicians, such as we are
( at least me. Perhaps you have and are all of the above). I have some experience with acoustics and recording them ( 5 released CDs on New Artists Records) both in a studio and at home and I love a well recorded, high quality grand, but I am also totally open to the pros of digital and a bit forgiving of the cons, just as you are doing with your acoustic recordings.

You accept the downside of limited production values for the sake of hearing a "live" instrument. I accept less as well for clarity and presence as mentioned above. I appreciate that you are expressing your personal preferences and not making a global statement and I respect that perspective. I just would like to express my perception of today's options and potentialities.

I support digital in the hope that it will continue to improve and perhaps, one day, satisfy even the most demanding listener. And the reason is that it is more democratic in its affordability and accessibility to those without superior instruments or availability of first class recording facilities.
When I restored my B in 1988 there were no other options to approach its quality and performance. Now there are possibilities for talented individuals who could not afford to participate to come closer and closer to that ideal. Thanks again for your thoughts.


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Re: November Piano Bar [Re: BillM] #2777994
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Originally Posted by BillM
I thought I’d dust off my Digital Grand for this month’s Piano Bar submission, All of Me. You will have to excuse my use of the Jazz Scat voice in the instrumental break but I thought it was a good idea at the time.



Bill - enjoyed your take on this fine old standard from the GAS - I've heard many versions of this over the years, but my favorite was on an early 50s album of Frank Sinatra (there's a surprise, huh?) - not sure though that I'd want to hear the Scat voice on your digital too often - you play far too well to distract from your excellent accompaniment style...


"Difficulties deferred and challenges unmet will eventually return with a vengeance to bite one in the butt." (paraphrasing Chopin)
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Originally Posted by Tim Adrianson

Handyman -- For some reason I always thought that "I'll Be Seeing You" was written by Kurt Weill for one of his musicals -- it always had kind of a world-weary European feel for me. Your rendition, in its straightforward "music box" setting, does capture the poignancy and sadness of the lyric very effectively -- never getting overly dramatic or maudlin in its statement. I would like to hear the "high note", though, in the second go-around -- I think that's a dramatic touch that greatly enhances the piece (OK, assuming the singer can hit it!).



Tim - sorry that this lovely, longing, heart-touching song "had kind of a world-weary European feel" for you - hopefully you can now, knowing something of it's history and importance to so many at the time, see it in a new light...

That "high note" is there at the end, although it's somewhat subdued and slightly delayed by my up-octave repeat of the phrase "...but I'll be seeing..." , which is the same "device" I used in the intro...thought I'd repeat this at the finish - not sure why I did this, but as they say, it sounded good at the time.


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There is so much beautiful music this month, as usual. Handyman, I so agree with you. One of my favorite top five also. Especially when you include the lyrics. I enjoy the Piano Bar you guys do each month. Thank you!


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Hi guys. Here's my submission for the month. My own rendition of this land is your land



I am currently uploading all of my written piano sheets onto my blog to make things easier. I also have written out a few more sheets. All free check it out if you want smile Any questions, PM me

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Re: November Piano Bar [Re: IosPlayer] #2778109
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Hi, IosPlayer -- I listened to your cover of "My One and Only Love" a second time, and would have to re-assess my opinion somewhat regarding my proposed "four-measure recycling" concept. I now hear something far closer to the typical Jazz treatment of an American Songbook Standard -- it's just that the Song itself, deliciously hidden in the "organ" accompaniment, moves very slowly against the Jazz lines above it; it doesn't conclude until 2:35 or so, and then is reprised with a typical Jazz improvisation only once before concluding.

As far as recording is concerned, I simply am a complete novice in that regard. I do agree with you that the TASCAM400 at 256 MP3 setting results in an overall sound quality inferior to its WAV setting, which I had previously used -- but it is a compromise that I elected to do because the e-Citals here on Piano World require MP3, and it's just more convenient for me to do that.

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Thanks, Tim, for taking the time to respond. MP3 hmmm. I would be curious to hear the WAV recording as compared to the MP3. Any chance you might be able to post those? I always use WAV on my SoundCloud postings. Didn't realize an MP3 was so different. Thanks!


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Hi, Handyman! Well, don't be sorry -- I actually didn't mean the "world-weary European" comment to be disparaging in any way; I consider it to be a legitimate mindset, thoroughly honest and vulnerable in its sentiment. Another song that I would have sworn was written during WW II -- but actually wasn't -- was "For All We Know", which was actually written in the early 30s. Both of the songs have such a strong, poignant lyric, with a melodic line to support it so achingly.

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Originally Posted by Tim Adrianson
I do agree with you that the TASCAM400 at 256 MP3 setting results in an overall sound quality inferior to its WAV setting, which I had previously used -- but it is a compromise that I elected to do because the e-Citals here on Piano World require MP3, and it's just more convenient for me to do that.
Tim, I find the quality of your recordings quite good and the acoustic Kawai grand you own is a fine instrument. Well, one could improve the sound a bit with the equalizer and reverb functions in Audacity, but what counts most is the skills of the pianist and there you are top-class.

Never upload wav files, they are far too big and the difference between an mp3 and a wav file can only be heard with high-end equipment. 256 kbit/s is already quite much, I would suggest to record 128 kbit/s like me and cut the file size by half.

Recording acoustics and digitals in general... In some of the recitals I felt sorry for some participants who spent a fortune on their very expensive acoustic instruments but their recordings sounded much inferior to some guys' uploads who just bought a cheap digital keyboard/software solution like VPC1 and Garritan CFX. You know I own an acoustic as well but for recording purposes I almost exclusively use the built-in silent system as a VP controller for the software on my notebook, so I kind of got a Steinway D for just 130 EUR.

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Originally Posted by Tim Adrianson
Hi, Handyman! Well, don't be sorry -- I actually didn't mean the "world-weary European" comment to be disparaging in any way; I consider it to be a legitimate mindset, thoroughly honest and vulnerable in its sentiment.


My mistake - I think I always understood the phrase "world-weary" to indicate fatalism and cynicism tending strongly towards dissipation and nihilism...as supposedly existed to a wide extent in Germany during the Great Wars - maybe "war-weary" would be a better description of the dominant mindset...


Originally Posted by Tim Adrianson
...Another song that I would have sworn was written during WW II -- but actually wasn't -- was "For All We Know", which was actually written in the early 30s. Both of the songs have such a strong, poignant lyric, with a melodic line to support it so achingly.


Another warm and wonderful song! I don't know for sure but I suspect that it might have been almost as popular as "I'll Be Seeing You" during the war - it's lyrics are near perfect for that.

Not to belabor this too long here I just want to share this video of a much more celebratory and far happier post-WW2 war song guaranteed to bring a smile to one's face (with some great trumpet, vocal & sax work thrown in for our delight...):


It's Been a Long, Long Time


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Re: November Piano Bar [Re: Pianist685] #2778353
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I have been busy with other things so was unable to post in the October Piano Bar. I'm not out the other side of the tunnel yet, so still have to listen to, and comments on, all that has been posted in the November bar.

Meantime here are my contributions for November:

Stranger on the Shore - By clarinettist Acker Bilk 1961
Stranger on the Shore

Lonely- By clarinettist Acker Bilk 1962
Lonely

A Nightingale Sang in Berkeley Square - From New Faces film 1954
A Nightingale Sang in Berkeley Square

Lille Marlene - originally 1911
Lille Marlene

Let the rest of the World Go By - 1919
Let the rest of the World Go by

Wish me Luck as you Wave me Goodbye - Sung by Gracie Fields in 20th Century film Shipyard Sally 1939
Wish me Luck as you Wave me Goodbye

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Re: November Piano Bar [Re: Pianist685] #2778363
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Pianist 685, What a beautiful combination of original and your improvisation on Smile. Great!

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Re: November Piano Bar [Re: jazztpt] #2778364
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Jazztpt - Island...so dreamy and evocative. I'm seeing gentle waves lapping on the shore and the Sun going down. Lovely playing!

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Re: November Piano Bar [Re: Tim Adrianson] #2778365
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Tim,
Crimson Lullaby - To me this is very like Ravel's music. Your use of sustain is so fitting to this music. Nice playing!

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Tim - Things we did last summer. This was new to me, but I looked it up and saw Jo Stafford 1946. I liked the song towards its end, but I had difficulty getting into the song at its beginning.

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Handyman - I'll be Seeing you
Lovely playing and great crescendo.

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BillM All of me - You certainly gave it your all! You sang this as a true crooner and it was very enjoyable.

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Jazztpt,
The Causeway - Great percussive jazz sound.

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Bewitched - I would love to be able to play like you do. So confident and sure finger work!
Your rendition was just super.

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IosPlayer - My One and Only Love
Forgive me but this had too many layers for me to feel relaxed. Perhaps one day you will post it with just your piano. I would love to hear it.

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Re: November Piano Bar [Re: ladypayne] #2778381
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ladypayne - This land is your land
I like Woody's songs. Maybe one day someone will write similar words to this tune for my country Scotland. Nice playing!

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Beemer, open your ears brother, there is more to music than just piano. Too many layers? Really.
Frankly, asking me to post a piano solo for you is a bit presumptuous, don't you think? But, yes, I do forgive you,


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LadyPayne – This Land Is Your Land Songs like this must not be forgotten, so thanks a lot for this fine arrangement of yours. I remember you posted your version of “Oh, Susanna” some time ago, in the same style, with various transpositions, so it seems you have specialised in this kind of music. Great job!

Handyman – It’s Been A Long Long Time That is a really wonderful Harry James recording. The trumpet sound is gorgeous.

Beemer – Stranger On The Shore I very much enjoyed your romantic rendition of this fantastic song, it brought me back some decades when I played this piece myself on the clarinet (I learned the clarinet as my second instrument but quit playing it when I entered the university). Same goes for “Lonely”

Beemer – A Nightingale Sang In Berkeley Square Wow, you are giving a whole concert this month. I would like to see you live on stage with this gently swinging rendition of one of the great classics.

Beemer – Lilly Marlene I am glad you wrote “originally 1911” because this song had a special meaning for the German troops in World War II.

Beemer – Let The Rest Of The World Go By I did not know this lovely song yet, thanks for sharing. It sounds quite modern for 1919.

Beemer – Wish Me Luck As You Wave Me Goodbye Another fine romantic song from a time when movies always came along with great songs.

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Pianist685, thanks for your kind comments. I knew Lille Marlene was a favourite on both sides of the conflict.
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LadyPayne - I really like the somewhat honkytonk feel of your rendition and the frequent key changes. A fun performance!


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Beemer - Wow! They don’t write them like that anymore. Absolutely loved you song selections and your elegant understated performances. Great Piano Bar submission!


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I posted this on another thread, but feel it appropriately belongs in a bar... the November Piano.Bar. Billy Strayhorn's masterpiece, Lush Life. Played on a 1922 Steinway A at my teacher, Connie Crothers' Brooklyn studio.

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Hi, folks -- comments on the new submissions --

ladypayne -- An effective piano cover of a very well known song indeed. Of course, Guthrie had intended the piece to be an anthem, predominantly concerned about the lyric and the sing-along aspect, and so it's a very simple chordal structure with unchanging rhythm. That makes it difficult to maintain interest over a 3 minute duration using only instruments, but you accomplished that with key changes, shifts in octave ranges, and slight changes in cadence. Great listening!

Beemer -- Many thanks for very straightforward, sensitive renditions of the sheet music originals. I believe that Bilk's "Stranger on the Shore" actually made it to #1 in the pop charts -- those were in the days when purely instrumental pieces actually made it to the Top 10. I didn't recognize "Lonely" -- guess that was the "B" side. I was surprised that "Lili Marlene" was originally conceived as a march -- the lyric doesn't match up with it, unless there was a military implication to the song that I'm not aware of. By far my favorite was "A Nightingale Sang..." -- that one justifiably entered the ranks of Jazz standards; there's so much you can do with the melodic line, and the lyric is especially beautiful and touching. The last two are venerable chestnuts from the period between the Wars -- I confess that I don't have a great affection for this material, but again, you played it with such straightforwardness and honesty that I listened to them with genuine interest.

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Tim,

Thanks for your comments. As I have mentioned before, I only sightread and yes these pieces were all from the original sheet music. Some of them are my actual paper originals. I am not competant with improvisation and I'm quite happy to play following "the dots".

Lilli Marlene - a poem written by a young German solder and given music in 1938. It was used as a marching song before Marlene Dietrich and Vera Lynn sang it. I was surprised to learn that Hank Locklin and Connie Francis also recorded it.

Underneath the lantern
By the barrack gate
Darling I remember
The way you used to wait
T’was there that you whispered tenderly
That you love’d me, you’d always be
My Lili of the Lamplight
My own Lili Marlene.

Vor der kaserne
Vor dem grosen tor
Stand eine laterne und steht sie noch davor
So wolin wir da uns wiedersehn
Bei der laterne wolin wir stehn
Wie einst Lili Marleen
Wie einst Lili Marleen

Ian


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