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Re the difference between the Jansen vinyl and leather benches, I strongly recommend going for the leather if the price difference is at all doable. Not long ago, I came across nearly new second-hand vinyl Jansen bench on sale at a dealer's; it would have been in mint condition, but the owner's dog had mauled the corner. When I handled the torn edges, the vinyl felt surprisingly soft and thin, not at all equivalent to leather. (I sew and have handled much heavier vinyls, which I what I'd expected to feel after reading so often that the vinyl is very high quality.) I believe that the exceptional padding Jansen uses makes the vinyl feel and appear very firm and smooth when new -- but I don't believe it could possibly hold up as well as leather over the years and decades. Got my own new Jansen bench not long after. In leather, of course.
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... In a Jansen you get honest-to-goodness machined parts that are made of real steel instead of stamped and/or molded pot-metal. You have real bearings instead of shafts turning in punched sheet metal brackets. You have glue joints in real wood rather than chip-board. There are no staples in a Jansen bench. And you get top-quality upholstery, as well.
If "no staples" was the case in 2011, it is no longer the case today. Just recieved a Jensen yesterday, factor direct, and it definitely has staples. Not a bad bench but seems there are many more alternatives than just a few years ago. Plenty of $200-300 artist benches on Amazon with great reviews.
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David, I bought 2 Jansen artist benches this past year from http://www.jansenpianobenches.com/artistbenches.htmlI had no problems with either delivery. I did buy the Duet Artist Benches about $970 each. I bought the vinyl, I just personally like the vinyl better. It is high quality vinyl and I think looks like leather. My understanding is vinyl is softer, I am very pleased with my purchase. I am in my 5th year of lessons. I practice a 2-3 hours a day. I bought the one to go with my YUS 5, and I liked it so much I bought one for the Clavinova CLP 575. Actually I contemplated spending that on another bench and my husband said you sit on it every day and should have it for the next 20 years. When I viewed it that way, I use it every day. I sit on that bench more than using my car. The bench is very comfortable. I have had them for about a year. I have not noticed any squeaking or issues with the mechanisms of raising or lowering the bench. However, I am the only one who plays so the benches do not get adjusted. I contemplated on the single versus duet, I just like the bigger bench, I fall within a normal weight for my height and when I measured out the single bench it seemed small to me and I weight 145. So for a man the single bench may seem small. The weight of the bench is not really an issue because I am not carrying it or moving in anywhere. I have wood floors and coasters on the bottom of the legs so it slides easily to move it to sit on it. I am very pleased with my purchase. I bought a new YUS 5 in 2015 and it came with with a fairly cheap bench (under $100) considering the price of the piano. I don't know why I waited so long to buy this bench, it makes a difference. Hope this review was helpful.
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My piano came with a Jansen bench and I agree, it is very nice. I'm thinking of getting the duet bench because my daughter likes to sit and play with me on occasion. I wish I could see the leather before I make up my mind, I have the vinyl and although it is nice, I'm curious to see what the leather looks and feels like. Anyway, it's a lifetime purchase, meaning it will last for the rest of my life so I have no problem getting the best.
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While Jansen benches are comfortable, I've found them to develop noise and creak after a few years, and they are such a pain to adjust.
Ever since going to Hidrau and Andexinger hydro-pneumatic benches, there is no going back.
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While Jansen benches are comfortable, I've found them to develop noise and creak after a few years, and they are such a pain to adjust.
Ever since going to Hidrau and Andexinger hydro-pneumatic benches, there is no going back. The pneumatic benches may be convenient but I find them to be ugly. They look like a bench you’d find in weight lifting gym.
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The pneumatic benches may be convenient but I find them to be ugly. They look like a bench you’d find in weight lifting gym.
Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder, but I don't look at the bench while I play piano.
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The pneumatic benches may be convenient but I find them to be ugly. They look like a bench you’d find in weight lifting gym.
Lol. I never thought of that! I'll never look at my bench the same way again.
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The pneumatic benches may be convenient but I find them to be ugly. They look like a bench you’d find in weight lifting gym.
Lol. I never thought of that! I'll never look at my bench the same way again. Sorry, I wasn't intending to insult anyone's bench. I do recognize how functionally good the bench is, just aesthetically it's not my cut of tea. If they could make one that looked a little more traditional...
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The pneumatic benches may be convenient but I find them to be ugly. They look like a bench you’d find in weight lifting gym.
Lol. I never thought of that! I'll never look at my bench the same way again. Sorry, I wasn't intending to insult anyone's bench. I do recognize how functionally good the bench is, just aesthetically it's not my cut of tea. If they could make one that looked a little more traditional... No, you're right! My bench looks like something I should be lying down on with a weight in each hand! Luckily the rest of the room is such a mess it doesn't really matter.
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Another ringing endorsement of the Jansen benches is to be found at any orchestra rehearsal. The pianist shows up to find that the Jansen bench has been stolen by a harpist or cellist.
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I would not recommend purchasing any items from Jansen Piano Benches ( https://jansenpianobenches.com/). This company is not the manufacturer, only a reseller, and his name is Brandon. I purchased one item from him and I was given false information about the product I inquired about before my purchase. After I received the product and it was much different than described I sent almost 10 emails to this company about the issue and never received a response. I then discovered this company is also known as "Sheet Music Online" as I was trying to file a complaint with the Better Business Bureau about my purchase, and there are dozens of complaints against this company ( https://www.bbb.org/us/or/milwaukie/profile/sheet-music/sheet-music-online-1296-22017297/complaints). I also had to file a complaint with the AG office in Oregon, and with my credit card company, to receive a refund. Almost all of the products being sold on his website can be purchased from other retailers such as Amazon for far less than half the price. Also there are far better piano benches such as Hidrau, Discacciati, or Homberg. Don't throw your money away on a Jansen. Look at the reviews on the BBB link and you'll understand why they are poor quality and this company has terrible customer service. Save yourself the time, money, and aggravation.
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Eva Don’t know what you were actually sent, but I don’t think you will find anyone here who owns a Jansen bench disappointed in the bench.
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Also there are far better piano benches such as Hidrau, Discacciati, or Homberg. Don't throw your money away on a Jansen. You have a bad experience with a reseller, but instead you are attacking the manufacturer. Although I have my personal bench brand preferences, I doubt anyone who’s ever owned/used a Jansen artist bench (their top line, domestically produced stuff) felt like they were throwing their money away. Also, you have firsthand ownership or longer-term usage experience with every one of the equivalent benches from these other 3 brands? Color me impressed.
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I got a Jansen artist bench with my Estonia. Well constructed with beautifully cushioned leather seat. A duet bench would be even better. Well worth the cost. Even the single artist’s bench is heavy. I put sliders on the bottom to make it easier to move.
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I bought an adjustable chair from that website a couple of years ago. I received exactly what I expected and paid for. It’s not a Jansen, as is disclosed on the website, but it works just fine. I also have a 20 year old Jansen bench I wouldn’t give up for anything.
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I would not recommend purchasing any items from Jansen Piano Benches ( https://jansenpianobenches.com/). This company is not the manufacturer, only a reseller, and his name is Brandon. I purchased one item from him and I was given false information about the product I inquired about before my purchase. After I received the product and it was much different than described I sent almost 10 emails to this company about the issue and never received a response. I then discovered this company is also known as "Sheet Music Online" as I was trying to file a complaint with the Better Business Bureau about my purchase, and there are dozens of complaints against this company ( https://www.bbb.org/us/or/milwaukie/profile/sheet-music/sheet-music-online-1296-22017297/complaints). I also had to file a complaint with the AG office in Oregon, and with my credit card company, to receive a refund. Almost all of the products being sold on his website can be purchased from other retailers such as Amazon for far less than half the price. Also there are far better piano benches such as Hidrau, Discacciati, or Homberg. Don't throw your money away on a Jansen. Look at the reviews on the BBB link and you'll understand why they are poor quality and this company has terrible customer service. Save yourself the time, money, and aggravation. I would not recommend purchasing any items from Jansen Piano Benches ( https://jansenpianobenches.com/). This company is not the manufacturer, only a reseller, and his name is Brandon. I purchased one item from him and I was given false information about the product I inquired about before my purchase. After I received the product and it was much different than described I sent almost 10 emails to this company about the issue and never received a response. I then discovered this company is also known as "Sheet Music Online" as I was trying to file a complaint with the Better Business Bureau about my purchase, and there are dozens of complaints against this company ( https://www.bbb.org/us/or/milwaukie/profile/sheet-music/sheet-music-online-1296-22017297/complaints). I also had to file a complaint with the AG office in Oregon, and with my credit card company, to receive a refund. Almost all of the products being sold on his website can be purchased from other retailers such as Amazon for far less than half the price. Also there are far better piano benches such as Hidrau, Discacciati, or Homberg. Don't throw your money away on a Jansen. Look at the reviews on the BBB link and you'll understand why they are poor quality and this company has terrible customer service. Save yourself the time, money, and aggravation. I would not recommend purchasing any items from Jansen Piano Benches ( https://jansenpianobenches.com/). This company is not the manufacturer, only a reseller, and his name is Brandon. I purchased one item from him and I was given false information about the product I inquired about before my purchase. After I received the product and it was much different than described I sent almost 10 emails to this company about the issue and never received a response. I then discovered this company is also known as "Sheet Music Online" as I was trying to file a complaint with the Better Business Bureau about my purchase, and there are dozens of complaints against this company ( https://www.bbb.org/us/or/milwaukie/profile/sheet-music/sheet-music-online-1296-22017297/complaints). I also had to file a complaint with the AG office in Oregon, and with my credit card company, to receive a refund. Almost all of the products being sold on his website can be purchased from other retailers such as Amazon for far less than half the price. Also there are far better piano benches such as Hidrau, Discacciati, or Homberg. Don't throw your money away on a Jansen. Look at the reviews on the BBB link and you'll understand why they are poor quality and this company has terrible customer service. Save yourself the time, money, and aggravation. I think he got you on the jansenbenches.com thing. It looks like his company IS Jansen but he’s just a reseller. Maybe that company might be questionable but Jansen benches are probably the best out there. I’ve owned 2 of them one I purchased for my RX2 Kawai and the one that came with my Shigeru.
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I never knew that Jansen made vinyl benches. I love mine but got it used, and now I'm wondering if it's actually leather as I presumed.. (I'm sure I wouldn't know the difference unless I were making a direct comparison of the two.)
How can I tell? Peace of mind would be nice! Alternatively, I couldn't dislike the tech who sold me the bench "at a discount because of his S&S connections" more than I already do. His price was barely $50 less than I saw on the usual websites, and I in effect got an out-of-the-box used bench in like-new condition but with no paperwork at all. He's a RPT with the PTG and a horrible person, so nothing would surprise me given that he installed the Dampp-Chaser with the same b.s. story instead of ordering me one. Maybe it was "new" but the heating rod at the tail of the piano failed almost immediately.
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I never knew that Jansen made vinyl benches. I love mine but got it used, and now I'm wondering if it's actually leather as I presumed.. (I'm sure I wouldn't know the difference unless I were making a direct comparison of the two.) From the Jansen website: "Jansen® Grand and Upright Benches are available in a variety of leg lengths, styles and finishes to compliment your taste and decor. Each leg is handcrafted from solid hardwood maple wood and finished in our facility with high quality, locally sourced finishes. Our high-quality vinyl upholstery is standard. To reach another level of comfort and quality, choose our leather upholstery. How can I tell? Peace of mind would be nice! From personal experience and what I can find on the internet, a new Jansen adjustable tufted vinyl artist bench retails for around $750. The leather version is closer to $1,100. Sorry to hear about your RPT. Bad news.
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