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Re: Faber Graduates [Re: lilystem2609] #2705094
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Originally Posted by lilystem2609
I went through the Piano Adventures series by Faber when I was a kid. I definitely enjoyed them, and now I'm using my old books to teach a friend. I'm considering getting her either the adult or accelerated beginner books instead, however, because my current ones are (a) made for young children and (b) very much used! Can someone please give me a comparison between the different Faber series, difficulty wise? Is there much overlap between the pieces?

Thanks!

I can give you my two cents as far as difficulty levels of the various Faber Piano Adventure books. Using the Piano Teacher's Guild levels as a guide, here is what I see:

Level 1 Early Elementary
Levels 2A/B: Elementary
Level 3A: Late Elementary
Level 3B: Late Elementary / Early Intermediate
Level 4: Early Intermediate
Level 5: Intermediate

I would say that if you can get the harder pieces at the end of Level 5 up to the higher suggested speeds you would be bumping into Late Intermediate.

Everything builds up your technique if you follow the books exactly. Try not to skip too many pieces in each level, even though some of the pieces are not all that interesting.

There are even earlier books just made for young students. The final arbiter of course is the teacher.


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Originally Posted by BrianDX
Originally Posted by lilystem2609
I went through the Piano Adventures series by Faber when I was a kid. I definitely enjoyed them, and now I'm using my old books to teach a friend. I'm considering getting her either the adult or accelerated beginner books instead, however, because my current ones are (a) made for young children and (b) very much used! Can someone please give me a comparison between the different Faber series, difficulty wise? Is there much overlap between the pieces?

Thanks!

I can give you my two cents as far as difficulty levels of the various Faber Piano Adventure books. Using the Piano Teacher's Guild levels as a guide, here is what I see:

Level 1 Early Elementary
Levels 2A/B: Elementary
Level 3A: Late Elementary
Level 3B: Late Elementary / Early Intermediate
Level 4: Early Intermediate
Level 5: Intermediate

I would say that if you can get the harder pieces at the end of Level 5 up to the higher suggested speeds you would be bumping into Late Intermediate.

Everything builds up your technique if you follow the books exactly. Try not to skip too many pieces in each level, even though some of the pieces are not all that interesting.

There are even earlier books just made for young students. The final arbiter of course is the teacher.



Hello Brian, could you please just once again explain the difference between A and B at Levels 2 and 3. I have seen you mention this before but I wasn't really clear.
I am actually an intermediate player around Grade 3 ABRSM (never did exams or theory) and am buying the books to fill in theory/application of theory gaps in my knowledge (scales/chords) in order to progress in a more "intelligent" fashion. I took up piano seriously again recently after a gap of many years. I am not working with a teacher at this stage. Once I reach the point of feeling I am at where I left off and have filled in those gaps and that I need more practical, personal guidance, that may change. But not right now.
Would I be best going With A or B in your opinion? (Really, what is the difference). It was reading your thread that decided me to go with Faber and having seen the book contents on their website and the Fabers on YouTube. I could also email them but 'd like to have your opinion first.
Thank you.

Also wonder where you are at now you have finished the series, what is your next step? Massive achievement well done.

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Re: Faber Graduates [Re: TrevorM] #2709562
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Thanks Trevor for the information and the links.


FYI, just discovered that the first book was originally called Jazz Piano for the Young Pianist and appears to be pretty widely available online. The difficulty I'm having with them is that the Minuets don't have suggested fingering (the exercises do) so I'm struggling a bit with those.



Yes. I got a piece from my teacher who asked me to figure out the fingering myself as a first step. But I found the going tough. So for now I've shelved it for a time when I am technically fit to play it with a bit more ease.

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Originally Posted by NobleHouse
I have just started the Faber Adult Piano Adventures All-in-One Lesson Book 1. So far so good.


Hello NobleHouse. We should stay in touch on this. I decided to get the Faber books to fill in gaps in my theory knowledge and technique. Though I first learned piano in my teens, nearly fifty years ago, got to about grade 3-4 equivalent, no grade exams, I have now taken it up again in retirement. Though I can play some Chopin, Bach etc, simpler pieces, and I am revising those, I do feel it will be useful to go right back to Book 1 with this. My book is on its way to me and I am looking forward to starting it. I my choice was made after reading Brian's thread here. I hope you
enjoy the journey and find both the Faber course and this thread supportive.


Hi Bach_ingMaddie. Love the name.

Nice to see another Sydneyite in this forum. Welcome.

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Originally Posted by NobleHouse
Originally Posted by Bach_ingMaddie
Originally Posted by NobleHouse
Originally Posted by Bach_ingMaddie
Originally Posted by NobleHouse
I have just started the Faber Adult Piano Adventures All-in-One Lesson Book 1. So far so good.


Hello NobleHouse. We should stay in touch on this. I decided to get the Faber books to fill in gaps in my theory knowledge and technique. Though I first learned piano in my teens, nearly fifty years ago, got to about grade 3-4 equivalent, no grade exams, I have now taken it up again in retirement. Though I can play some Chopin, Bach etc, simpler pieces, and I am revising those, I do feel it will be useful to go right back to Book 1 with this. My book is on its way to me and I am looking forward to starting it. I my choice was made after reading Brian's thread here. I hope you
enjoy the journey and find both the Faber course and this thread supportive.


Sounds like a good plan....but I am a complete beginner...no previous playing experience :
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That's ok. It's just to talk about the Faber book series, compare notes, how we are finding it as that is new to both of us. I notice on the Pen Pals thread you say you have a grand piano and a "really good upright". I don't have a grand piano frown ... and I wouldn't say my upright is a "really good one" so perhaps you have some advantages over me there. I have a Roland digital, I've only had it a couple of months. It isn't top end. I sometimes wonder if I had a $25,000 piano if I would be able to play better but I shall probably never know. Still waiting for my book to arrive. Will stay in touch. Good luck!


Well, my grand piano and "really good upright" haven't helped me at all mad cool


I'd like to throw my two-pence bit into this tongue-in-cheek debate about whether having a good piano makes you play better. I think having a good piano (one you could afford off-course) does help as it makes you feel a bit more committed and slightly more confident. It is a bit like how putting on a suit makes you feel a bit more serious and confident whereas wearing jeans and a tee-shirt makes you feel more relaxed.

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Originally Posted by Mario2015
Originally Posted by Bach_ingMaddie
Originally Posted by NobleHouse
I have just started the Faber Adult Piano Adventures All-in-One Lesson Book 1. So far so good.


Hello NobleHouse. We should stay in touch on this. I decided to get the Faber books to fill in gaps in my theory knowledge and technique. Though I first learned piano in my teens, nearly fifty years ago, got to about grade 3-4 equivalent, no grade exams, I have now taken it up again in retirement. Though I can play some Chopin, Bach etc, simpler pieces, and I am revising those, I do feel it will be useful to go right back to Book 1 with this. My book is on its way to me and I am looking forward to starting it. I my choice was made after reading Brian's thread here. I hope you
enjoy the journey and find both the Faber course and this thread supportive.


Hi Bach_ingMaddie. Love the name.

Nice to see another Sydneyite in this forum. Welcome.






Hi Mario, thanks. Yes I am barking mad you'll be pleased to know. Did you get across to Crows Nest for the Fine FM music score, CD and book sale in the last few weeks by any chance? Many bargains to be had. There'll be another one in June if you missed it.


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FYI, just discovered that the first book was originally called Jazz Piano for the Young Pianist and appears to be pretty widely available online. The difficulty I'm having with them is that the Minuets don't have suggested fingering (the exercises do) so I'm struggling a bit with those.



Yes. I got a piece from my teacher who asked me to figure out the fingering myself as a first step. But I found the going tough. So for now I've shelved it for a time when I am technically fit to play it with a bit more ease.


Struggling a bit -> I gave up. smirk


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Originally Posted by Bach_ingMaddie
Originally Posted by Mario2015
Originally Posted by Bach_ingMaddie
Originally Posted by NobleHouse
I have just started the Faber Adult Piano Adventures All-in-One Lesson Book 1. So far so good.


Hello NobleHouse. We should stay in touch on this. I decided to get the Faber books to fill in gaps in my theory knowledge and technique. Though I first learned piano in my teens, nearly fifty years ago, got to about grade 3-4 equivalent, no grade exams, I have now taken it up again in retirement. Though I can play some Chopin, Bach etc, simpler pieces, and I am revising those, I do feel it will be useful to go right back to Book 1 with this. My book is on its way to me and I am looking forward to starting it. I my choice was made after reading Brian's thread here. I hope you
enjoy the journey and find both the Faber course and this thread supportive.


Hi Bach_ingMaddie. Love the name.

Nice to see another Sydneyite in this forum. Welcome.






Hi Mario, thanks. Yes I am barking mad you'll be pleased to know. Did you get across to Crows Nest for the Fine FM music score, CD and book sale in the last few weeks by any chance? Many bargains to be had. There'll be another one in June if you missed it.


Hi Barking-Mad,
No unfortunately I did not. Did not know about it.
Will keep the June one in my calendar.
Thanks for letting me know.

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Originally Posted by TrevorM
Originally Posted by Mario2015
Originally Posted by TrevorM


FYI, just discovered that the first book was originally called Jazz Piano for the Young Pianist and appears to be pretty widely available online. The difficulty I'm having with them is that the Minuets don't have suggested fingering (the exercises do) so I'm struggling a bit with those.



Yes. I got a piece from my teacher who asked me to figure out the fingering myself as a first step. But I found the going tough. So for now I've shelved it for a time when I am technically fit to play it with a bit more ease.


Struggling a bit -> I gave up. smirk


I will try again. Maybe when I finish Level 5 in a couple of years and progressed a bit in my jazz playing. Supposed to great for improvisation and hand separation.

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Originally Posted by Mario2015
Originally Posted by Bach_ingMaddie
Originally Posted by Mario2015
Originally Posted by Bach_ingMaddie
Originally Posted by NobleHouse
I have just started the Faber Adult Piano Adventures All-in-One Lesson Book 1. So far so good.


Hello NobleHouse. We should stay in touch on this. I decided to get the Faber books to fill in gaps in my theory knowledge and technique. Though I first learned piano in my teens, nearly fifty years ago, got to about grade 3-4 equivalent, no grade exams, I have now taken it up again in retirement. Though I can play some Chopin, Bach etc, simpler pieces, and I am revising those, I do feel it will be useful to go right back to Book 1 with this. My book is on its way to me and I am looking forward to starting it. I my choice was made after reading Brian's thread here. I hope you
enjoy the journey and find both the Faber course and this thread supportive.


Hi Bach_ingMaddie. Love the name.

Nice to see another Sydneyite in this forum. Welcome.






Hi Mario, thanks. Yes I am barking mad you'll be pleased to know. Did you get across to Crows Nest for the Fine FM music score, CD and book sale in the last few weeks by any chance? Many bargains to be had. There'll be another one in June if you missed it.


Hi Barking-Mad,
No unfortunately I did not. Did not know about it.
Will keep the June one in my calendar.
Thanks for letting me know.


OK Mario, dates are: Opening night Thurs 7 June 6pm-10pm then daily 9am - 6pm until 17 June. Address: Crows Nest Centre Ernest Street. It's like a community centre. Check out the Fine Music 102.5 FM website. They hold them in Five Dock as well, don't know dates though.


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Re: Faber Graduates [Re: Bach_ingMaddie] #2710176
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Originally Posted by Bach_ingMaddie

Hello Brian, could you please just once again explain the difference between A and B at Levels 2 and 3. I have seen you mention this before but I wasn't really clear.

I am actually an intermediate player around Grade 3 ABRSM (never did exams or theory) and am buying the books to fill in theory/application of theory gaps in my knowledge (scales/chords) in order to progress in a more "intelligent" fashion. I took up piano seriously again recently after a gap of many years. I am not working with a teacher at this stage. Once I reach the point of feeling I am at where I left off and have filled in those gaps and that I need more practical, personal guidance, that may change. But not right now.
Would I be best going With A or B in your opinion? (Really, what is the difference). It was reading your thread that decided me to go with Faber and having seen the book contents on their website and the Fabers on YouTube. I could also email them but 'd like to have your opinion first.
Thank you.

Also wonder where you are at now you have finished the series, what is your next step? Massive achievement well done.

To your first question, the only real difference between A and B is that Levels 2 and 3 require a large number of skills that require them to be broken into two series of books to keep them manageable. In reality you can just consider these different levels because that's the way I approached them.

To your second question, quite frankly I have been struggling a bit since late last year to find a new purpose and specific goals. This past week I decided to concentrate on finishing Faber Developing Artist Book 3 which will take a year or more to complete. In some ways this is the ultimate "graduation" book from Faber, as everything beyond that (including DA Book 4) starts at later Intermediate. For example, DA Book 4 has Chopin pieces in original form, which I am clearly not quite ready to tackle yet.


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Originally Posted by BrianDX
Originally Posted by Bach_ingMaddie

Hello Brian, could you please just once again explain the difference between A and B at Levels 2 and 3. I have seen you mention this before but I wasn't really clear.

I am actually an intermediate player around Grade 3 ABRSM (never did exams or theory) and am buying the books to fill in theory/application of theory gaps in my knowledge (scales/chords) in order to progress in a more "intelligent" fashion. I took up piano seriously again recently after a gap of many years. I am not working with a teacher at this stage. Once I reach the point of feeling I am at where I left off and have filled in those gaps and that I need more practical, personal guidance, that may change. But not right now.
Would I be best going With A or B in your opinion? (Really, what is the difference). It was reading your thread that decided me to go with Faber and having seen the book contents on their website and the Fabers on YouTube. I could also email them but 'd like to have your opinion first.
Thank you.

Also wonder where you are at now you have finished the series, what is your next step? Massive achievement well done.

To your first question, the only real difference between A and B is that Levels 2 and 3 require a large number of skills that require them to be broken into two series of books to keep them manageable. In reality you can just consider these different levels because that's the way I approached them.

To your second question, quite frankly I have been struggling a bit since late last year to find a new purpose and specific goals. This past week I decided to concentrate on finishing Faber Developing Artist Book 3 which will take a year or more to complete. In some ways this is the ultimate "graduation" book from Faber, as everything beyond that (including DA Book 4) starts at later Intermediate. For example, DA Book 4 has Chopin pieces in original form, which I am clearly not quite ready to tackle yet.

Originally Posted by Bach_ingMaddie
Originally Posted by Mario2015
Originally Posted by Bach_ingMaddie
Originally Posted by Mario2015
Originally Posted by Bach_ingMaddie
Originally Posted by NobleHouse
I have just started the Faber Adult Piano Adventures All-in-One Lesson Book 1. So far so good.


Hello NobleHouse. We should stay in touch on this. I decided to get the Faber books to fill in gaps in my theory knowledge and technique. Though I first learned piano in my teens, nearly fifty years ago, got to about grade 3-4 equivalent, no grade exams, I have now taken it up again in retirement. Though I can play some Chopin, Bach etc, simpler pieces, and I am revising those, I do feel it will be useful to go right back to Book 1 with this. My book is on its way to me and I am looking forward to starting it. I my choice was made after reading Brian's thread here. I hope you
enjoy the journey and find both the Faber course and this thread supportive.


Hi Bach_ingMaddie. Love the name.

Nice to see another Sydneyite in this forum. Welcome.






Hi Mario, thanks. Yes I am barking mad you'll be pleased to know. Did you get across to Crows Nest for the Fine FM music score, CD and book sale in the last few weeks by any chance? Many bargains to be had. There'll be another one in June if you missed it.


Hi Barking-Mad,
No unfortunately I did not. Did not know about it.
Will keep the June one in my calendar.
Thanks for letting me know.


OK Mario, dates are: Opening night Thurs 7 June 6pm-10pm then daily 9am - 6pm until 17 June. Address: Crows Nest Centre Ernest Street. It's like a community centre. Check out the Fine Music 102.5 FM website. They hold them in Five Dock as well, don't know dates though.



Thanks Bach_ingMaddie.

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I'm popping in to say hi! It's been a long while since I posted anything to this thread. I spent 2017 working through 3A and finished today. I'm going to try to be a little more regimented in 2018 and work through 3B between now and December 1, leaving the month of December to work on fun holiday songs (Charlie Brown Christmas, Nutcracker, etc).

BRIAN - congratulations on a massive accomplishment. PLEASE continue to post here so that everyone who is following this path can think about what comes after (even though for some of us, we won't get there until . . . 2021? Assuming that they even have pianos in space). But seriously congratulations. I read a lot of your posts from the 31 pages and you really worked hard on this for a long time.

EVERYONE ELSE - I'm interested to hear exactly what you are working on. Are you working with just the core four? Core four plus some Faber genre books (classics, blues & jazz, etc)? Books not published by Faber?

I like to have different things to play but also want to stay at a level where things are challenging but learnable, so I am aiming to work through the core four plus six other faber books that are around the 3B level:

Jazz & Blues
Ragtimes & Marches
Classics
Developing Artist Piano Literature Book 1
Developing Artist Piano Sonatinas Book 1
Discover Blues Improvisation

I'm going to try to work through two pages a day if I can manage, while hanging on to a rolling repertoire of 20 or so songs that I could play more or less on demand for friends and family. I've really enjoyed developing through the Faber books and am glad to have (a little belatedly) turned the page to a new set of books. Nice to see everyone here and I hope we can keep this thread alive!

Best,

Steve

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Originally Posted by Adam107
I'm popping in to say hi! It's been a long while since I posted anything to this thread. I spent 2017 working through 3A and finished today. I'm going to try to be a little more regimented in 2018 and work through 3B between now and December 1, leaving the month of December to work on fun holiday songs (Charlie Brown Christmas, Nutcracker, etc).

BRIAN - congratulations on a massive accomplishment. PLEASE continue to post here so that everyone who is following this path can think about what comes after (even though for some of us, we won't get there until . . . 2021? Assuming that they even have pianos in space). But seriously congratulations. I read a lot of your posts from the 31 pages and you really worked hard on this for a long time.

EVERYONE ELSE - I'm interested to hear exactly what you are working on. Are you working with just the core four? Core four plus some Faber genre books (classics, blues & jazz, etc)? Books not published by Faber?

I like to have different things to play but also want to stay at a level where things are challenging but learnable, so I am aiming to work through the core four plus six other faber books that are around the 3B level:

Jazz & Blues
Ragtimes & Marches
Classics
Developing Artist Piano Literature Book 1
Developing Artist Piano Sonatinas Book 1
Discover Blues Improvisation

I'm going to try to work through two pages a day if I can manage, while hanging on to a rolling repertoire of 20 or so songs that I could play more or less on demand for friends and family. I've really enjoyed developing through the Faber books and am glad to have (a little belatedly) turned the page to a new set of books. Nice to see everyone here and I hope we can keep this thread alive!

Best,

Steve

Hi Steve,

Welcome back.

I am in the 2nd last unit of Level 4. I use the four core book mostly: Lessons, T&A, Theory, Performance and sometimes pieces from the jazz and blues 3B book. BTW for the specialized books always get a one which is one level below what you are as the books seem to be structured that way i.e. you need to finish a level before being able to play the piece from the specialized books.

My teacher is a jazz piano teacher so I am also learning jazz piano which at the moment means learning 2-5-1 chord progressions and how to improvise when you are just given the bare bones tune and chords in the jazz fake books. It is quite interesting.

Yes the going is tough and not all the pieces in the Faber series are interesting but I think working at it regardless will make one get the required skills to play more interesting pieces.

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Originally Posted by Adam107
I'm popping in to say hi! It's been a long while since I posted anything to this thread. I spent 2017 working through 3A and finished today. I'm going to try to be a little more regimented in 2018 and work through 3B between now and December 1, leaving the month of December to work on fun holiday songs (Charlie Brown Christmas, Nutcracker, etc).

BRIAN - congratulations on a massive accomplishment. PLEASE continue to post here so that everyone who is following this path can think about what comes after (even though for some of us, we won't get there until . . . 2021? Assuming that they even have pianos in space). But seriously congratulations. I read a lot of your posts from the 31 pages and you really worked hard on this for a long time.

EVERYONE ELSE - I'm interested to hear exactly what you are working on. Are you working with just the core four? Core four plus some Faber genre books (classics, blues & jazz, etc)? Books not published by Faber?

I like to have different things to play but also want to stay at a level where things are challenging but learnable, so I am aiming to work through the core four plus six other faber books that are around the 3B level:

Jazz & Blues
Ragtimes & Marches
Classics
Developing Artist Piano Literature Book 1
Developing Artist Piano Sonatinas Book 1
Discover Blues Improvisation

I'm going to try to work through two pages a day if I can manage, while hanging on to a rolling repertoire of 20 or so songs that I could play more or less on demand for friends and family. I've really enjoyed developing through the Faber books and am glad to have (a little belatedly) turned the page to a new set of books. Nice to see everyone here and I hope we can keep this thread alive!

Best,

Steve

Hi Steve!

Developing Artist Literature Book 1 is a perfect compliment to Level 3B. I learned about half of the pieces and it was an enjoyable experience. The Sonatinas book was a bit more challenging so I skipped that.

As I went through Level 4 my and I teacher and I bumped things up a bit. I learned every single piece in Developing Artist Literature Book 2, and some of them were very challenging (e.g. Schumann's Happy Farmer). However, that really helped with the challenges ahead in Level 5.

Best of luck!


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Originally Posted by Mario2015
I am in the 2nd last unit of Level 4. I use the four core book mostly: Lessons, T&A, Theory, Performance and sometimes pieces from the jazz and blues 3B book. BTW for the specialized books always get a one which is one level below what you are as the books seem to be structured that way i.e. you need to finish a level before being able to play the piece from the specialized books.

My teacher is a jazz piano teacher so I am also learning jazz piano which at the moment means learning 2-5-1 chord progressions and how to improvise when you are just given the bare bones tune and chords in the jazz fake books. It is quite interesting.

Yes the going is tough and not all the pieces in the Faber series are interesting but I think working at it regardless will make one get the required skills to play more interesting pieces.

Hi Mario! It looks like you are getting nearer the real masterpiece of The Faber series, Prelude in C by Bach in original form. Of all the classical music I listen to on Pandora, this is the only piece I've actually learned and played in front of an audience. Keep up the good work!



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Originally Posted by Mario2015
I am in the 2nd last unit of Level 4. I use the four core book mostly: Lessons, T&A, Theory, Performance and sometimes pieces from the jazz and blues 3B book. BTW for the specialized books always get a one which is one level below what you are as the books seem to be structured that way i.e. you need to finish a level before being able to play the piece from the specialized books.

My teacher is a jazz piano teacher so I am also learning jazz piano which at the moment means learning 2-5-1 chord progressions and how to improvise when you are just given the bare bones tune and chords in the jazz fake books. It is quite interesting.

Yes the going is tough and not all the pieces in the Faber series are interesting but I think working at it regardless will make one get the required skills to play more interesting pieces.

Hi Mario! It looks like you are getting nearer the real masterpiece of The Faber series, Prelude in C by Bach in original form. Of all the classical music I listen to on Pandora, this is the only piece I've actually learned and played in front of an audience. Keep up the good work!



Thanks for the encouragement Brian.

Yes I am too looking forward to playing Prelude in C. I could not resist and so did have a go at it a few weeks ago. But I think I will now leave it for the end.

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Good evening fellow Faber enthusiasts. I hope everyone is doing well.

I guess this thread is the best place to announce my retirement from this forum, at least for quite a while. Its been a great 4 years with over 2,000 posts, however a few new things have started to take up more of my time (not illness thank goodness!) and I feel it is time to take a break.

It's really a hard thing to drive yourself so hard for 4+ years to accomplish something which at the beginning I thought was impossible, that is, finish six distinct levels of the Faber series in under 5 years. Well now that it is done, I need to find something to further motivate me to continue on with this marvelous pastime. I'm still looking unfortunately. Wish me luck, hopefully I'll be back sometime in the future.

Brian


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Originally Posted by BrianDX
Good evening fellow Faber enthusiasts. I hope everyone is doing well.

I guess this thread is the best place to announce my retirement from this forum, at least for quite a while. Its been a great 4 years with over 2,000 posts, however a few new things have started to take up more of my time (not illness thank goodness!) and I feel it is time to take a break.

It's really a hard thing to drive yourself so hard for 4+ years to accomplish something which at the beginning I thought was impossible, that is, finish six distinct levels of the Faber series in under 5 years. Well now that it is done, I need to find something to further motivate me to continue on with this marvelous pastime. I'm still looking unfortunately. Wish me luck, hopefully I'll be back sometime in the future.

Brian


Good luck! I have enjoyed reading your posts. Stop by once in a while to let us know what you are doing...

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Originally Posted by BrianDX
Good evening fellow Faber enthusiasts. I hope everyone is doing well.

I guess this thread is the best place to announce my retirement from this forum, at least for quite a while. Its been a great 4 years with over 2,000 posts, however a few new things have started to take up more of my time (not illness thank goodness!) and I feel it is time to take a break.

It's really a hard thing to drive yourself so hard for 4+ years to accomplish something which at the beginning I thought was impossible, that is, finish six distinct levels of the Faber series in under 5 years. Well now that it is done, I need to find something to further motivate me to continue on with this marvelous pastime. I'm still looking unfortunately. Wish me luck, hopefully I'll be back sometime in the future.

Brian


Hi Brian,

That is quite an achievement. You obviously drove yourself pretty hard to accomplish all that in under 5 years. You are a true motivation to all of us.

Best of luck with your future endevours. Please keep this forum open for us and please post occasionally to keep us updated.

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Originally Posted by BrianDX
Good evening fellow Faber enthusiasts. I hope everyone is doing well.

I guess this thread is the best place to announce my retirement from this forum, at least for quite a while. Its been a great 4 years with over 2,000 posts, however a few new things have started to take up more of my time (not illness thank goodness!) and I feel it is time to take a break.

It's really a hard thing to drive yourself so hard for 4+ years to accomplish something which at the beginning I thought was impossible, that is, finish six distinct levels of the Faber series in under 5 years. Well now that it is done, I need to find something to further motivate me to continue on with this marvelous pastime. I'm still looking unfortunately. Wish me luck, hopefully I'll be back sometime in the future.

Brian


I came in to ask a question but first I want to say congratulations on your graduation from the Faber Graduates thread. Yes indeed do stop by once in a while.

You mentioned 6 levels of the Faber series. I am nearing the end of Adult Piano Adventures book 2, and the Piano Doctor told me I need to choose a new book. It appears that after PAA2 the roads diverge in a yellow wood into classical & popular topics. Am I reading this right?

https://pianoadventures.com/browse/...piano-adventures-adult-piano-adventures/


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Brian:
Best wishes moving forward. I want to thank you for all of your input to this group over the years. It has been most valuable.

As far as what to do now, how about anything and everything. I started my piano journey playing only classical pieces. Once I switched to Faber I was exposed to a much wider range of music. I've found I love some of the jazz tunes and the lyrical pieces. Folk tunes can be fun too. To get ideas on what to play look at the RCM program. It shows typical pieces students who sit for their exams could use for their exam recitals at 11 different levels. Sample pieces from the levels around where you think you are to gauge where you might be. The program is well structured and covers knowledge and skills you should have at each level. Even if you never sit for an exam, it still remains a useful guide.

tbonesays:
I to am nearing the end of Adult Piano Adventures 2. For us there are not 6 levels. Faber recommends we start at level 3B and move forward from there. So unlike the one book we have now we will have more smaller books. I think someone on here recommended that we use books a level lower if we are going to try books like Chordtime, etc. So 3A or 2B might work there. I am certainly looking forward to the challenge.


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Originally Posted by BrianDX
Good evening fellow Faber enthusiasts. I hope everyone is doing well.

I guess this thread is the best place to announce my retirement from this forum, at least for quite a while. Its been a great 4 years with over 2,000 posts, however a few new things have started to take up more of my time (not illness thank goodness!) and I feel it is time to take a break.

It's really a hard thing to drive yourself so hard for 4+ years to accomplish something which at the beginning I thought was impossible, that is, finish six distinct levels of the Faber series in under 5 years. Well now that it is done, I need to find something to further motivate me to continue on with this marvelous pastime. I'm still looking unfortunately. Wish me luck, hopefully I'll be back sometime in the future


I came in to ask a question but first I want to say congratulations on your graduation from the Faber Graduates thread. Yes indeed do stop by once in a while.

You mentioned 6 levels of the Faber series. I am nearing the end of Adult Piano Adventures book 2, and the Piano Doctor told me I need to choose a new book. It appears that after PAA2 the roads diverge in a yellow wood into classical & popular topics. Am I reading this right?

https://pianoadventures.com/browse/...piano-adventures-adult-piano-adventures/


Hi,

Your next books will either be the core books (lesson, performance, technique & artistry, theory) for Level 3A or Level 3B. I would recommend starting from Level 3A although some of the material overlap. The PA series always has a mixture of different genres. Were the Adult series only one genre?

For the specialized books e.g. the jazz & blues, developing artist, etc. it is always a good idea to get one level lower. So for example if you are at level 4 you would be better off getting the jazz books for level 3B called Funtime.

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Hi guys, long time, no post, LOL! I had a bit of a layoff. Life gets in the way sometimes, death in the family and other chaos, but things have calmed down. I just wanted to check in.

I'm not working with Faber anymore. I kind of got really uninspired by the music. I've always enjoy classical the most, no arrangements or such, so I lost a lot of interest as I kept going forward. Then life got a bit nuts and I stopped playing for a time. When I came back to it, I knew I had to do something different, but it had to be all classical. So I ended up going with Keith Snell's books. I'm in level 3 for his series, which is somewhere around the same level you're working on Brian, if you're still out there, LOL. I was going to follow that direction, too, and I have Developing Artist Level 3, which I'm picking pieces out of, along with Snell. I like that Snell has separate books for etudes, baroque/classical, and romantic/20th cent., plus scale and theory books for all the levels. It feels a lot better to me, and I'm much more inspired. So right now I'm working on a Czerny etude, a couple Bach musettes, and for romantic/20th century I picked Satie's First Gnossienne, which I absolutely ADORE. It looks much more challenging than what it really is, and it's actually starting to come together, which I'm thrilled about.

So I guess I'm also retiring from this thread, since I'm not working on Faber anymore. You guys all sound like you're doing great! I'm so happy to be playing again, the last year was really awful for life's chaos but all is well again! Great to see you all here! Happy Spring!


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EVERYONE ELSE - I'm interested to hear exactly what you are working on. Are you working with just the core four? Core four plus some Faber genre books (classics, blues & jazz, etc)? Books not published by Faber?



I am almost done with the book 1 PA for the accelerated beginner and my teacher told me to order book 2. we use Lesson, Theory, T&A and sightreading. I also ordered PlayTime Classics: Level 1 to work on for fun. If I like the PlayTime and it is a good level for me I may get the jazz/blues book after I finish classics. I enjoy the Faber books quite a lot.


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Originally Posted by ebonykawai
Hi guys, long time, no post, LOL! I had a bit of a layoff. Life gets in the way sometimes, death in the family and other chaos, but things have calmed down. I just wanted to check in.

I'm not working with Faber anymore. I kind of got really uninspired by the music. I've always enjoy classical the most, no arrangements or such, so I lost a lot of interest as I kept going forward. Then life got a bit nuts and I stopped playing for a time. When I came back to it, I knew I had to do something different, but it had to be all classical. So I ended up going with Keith Snell's books. I'm in level 3 for his series, which is somewhere around the same level you're working on Brian, if you're still out there, LOL. I was going to follow that direction, too, and I have Developing Artist Level 3, which I'm picking pieces out of, along with Snell. I like that Snell has separate books for etudes, baroque/classical, and romantic/20th cent., plus scale and theory books for all the levels. It feels a lot better to me, and I'm much more inspired. So right now I'm working on a Czerny etude, a couple Bach musettes, and for romantic/20th century I picked Satie's First Gnossienne, which I absolutely ADORE. It looks much more challenging than what it really is, and it's actually starting to come together, which I'm thrilled about.

So I guess I'm also retiring from this thread, since I'm not working on Faber anymore. You guys all sound like you're doing great! I'm so happy to be playing again, the last year was really awful for life's chaos but all is well again! Great to see you all here! Happy Spring!


Congrats on your new endeavors Ebony. Sorry to see you go. Please check back once in a while. Best wishes for your piano future.

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Hi guys, long time, no post, LOL! I had a bit of a layoff. Life gets in the way sometimes, death in the family and other chaos, but things have calmed down. I just wanted to check in.

I'm not working with Faber anymore. I kind of got really uninspired by the music. I've always enjoy classical the most, no arrangements or such, so I lost a lot of interest as I kept going forward. Then life got a bit nuts and I stopped playing for a time. When I came back to it, I knew I had to do something different, but it had to be all classical. So I ended up going with Keith Snell's books. I'm in level 3 for his series, which is somewhere around the same level you're working on Brian, if you're still out there, LOL. I was going to follow that direction, too, and I have Developing Artist Level 3, which I'm picking pieces out of, along with Snell. I like that Snell has separate books for etudes, baroque/classical, and romantic/20th cent., plus scale and theory books for all the levels. It feels a lot better to me, and I'm much more inspired. So right now I'm working on a Czerny etude, a couple Bach musettes, and for romantic/20th century I picked Satie's First Gnossienne, which I absolutely ADORE. It looks much more challenging than what it really is, and it's actually starting to come together, which I'm thrilled about.

So I guess I'm also retiring from this thread, since I'm not working on Faber anymore. You guys all sound like you're doing great! I'm so happy to be playing again, the last year was really awful for life's chaos but all is well again! Great to see you all here! Happy Spring!


Congrats on your new endeavors Ebony. Sorry to see you go. Please check back once in a while. Best wishes for your piano future.

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Just wondering if anyone is working in the Faber Piano Adventure books, especially Level 4. I am in unit one of level 4. I've been reading some of BrianDX posts in 2016. -Birdgolf


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I’ve started on book 2 but not fully committed yet although I like it so far. I’m also doing a bit from Alfred’s 2. Just wondering along I guess Birdgolf. I don’t know of a Faber 2 thread or of anyone here studying from it. If you want to just quit and wait a few years I’ll catch up to 4 and we can talk shop. 😳


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