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Suggestions for lightweight stage piano
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Hello Piano Friends -

I presently have a Roland FP-4 which I cart around for performances, but I play a lot of shorter gigs and open mics and it’s a bit heavy for me to lift quickly and efficiently. I haven’t been keeping up with the latest DP releases - Does anyone have any suggestions for a DP that has most of these properties:

- under 15 kg (33 lbs)
- 76 or 88 keys
- onboard speakers
- decent piano sound

I know it’s hokey but I use the Roland jazz scat voice on two of my songs, so if anyone knows of a Roland that has that sound and meets these specs that would be extra great. (I hate to spend $400 on a Spectrasonics CD for just one vst sound). Thanks so much in advance for your suggestions!

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The world opened up for me when I gave up on onboard speakers (when I replaced my FP-4). My lightweight board is now a Kurzweil SP-6 with a couple lightweight powered PAs.


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Originally Posted by Hoppie
- under 15 kg (33 lbs)
- 76 or 88 keys
- onboard speakers
- decent piano sound

If you want the internal speakers to be in the volume range of those of the FP4, I'd look at the Kurzweil KA90 (I assume some of its "twins" would work as well)... sounds are not so great, but it has MIDI Out and Line In, so it's easy to replace/supplement its internal sounds with those from an iPad/VST. You could also look at the Dexibell P3 which has better sounds, but is only 73 keys (and might be more expensive than a KA90 with an iPad). Or you could go with the 88 key P7 but it's just about right at your weight limit, which really doesn't save you a whole lot from the FP4. If the speakers don't have to be that beefy, there's also the Kawai ES110, some Casios (I'd look at PX360/PX560), and Yamahas (including the new 73-key P-121). If you don't need hammer action, you could also look at the Numa Compact 2, or Yamaha Piaggero.

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Thank you, Coker! I hear you - I would love to give up onboard speakers and go with my little Bose pa! But I play in so many weird venues and sometimes the onboards come in handy. 😊

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Great suggestions, @anotherscott! I will look into these. I’m sure whatever I end up with with be a trade-off but I guess the deal-breaker is “Can I lift the thing?” Lol. I have played the Yamaha piaggero n-11 and it’s wonderfully light but my fingers slip off the keys - it’s almost like they are smaller than the keys on my fp4. I’ve heard Roland has a keyboard called GO? I know it has less keys but I wonder if they have a better feel or if they are normal sized. Thanks again for your suggestions - I will have to find somewhere where I can try some of them out!

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Roland Go:Piano is only 61 keys. Yes, Yamaha NP11/NP32 keys (and those on their other non-hammer actions) are just slightly narrower than others. If you don't need the hammer action and want full width keys, check out that Numa Compact 2 (or the new 2X if you want more MIDI controls). But be aware that these speakers are not nearly as beefy as those in your FP4. For that, I think you'd have to look at the Kurz (or similar) and Dexibell.

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Originally Posted by Hoppie
Hello Piano Friends -

I presently have a Roland FP-4 which I cart around for performances, but I play a lot of shorter gigs and open mics and it’s a bit heavy for me to lift quickly and efficiently. I haven’t been keeping up with the latest DP releases - Does anyone have any suggestions for a DP that has most of these properties:

- under 15 kg (33 lbs)
- 76 or 88 keys
- onboard speakers
- decent piano sound

I know it’s hokey but I use the Roland jazz scat voice on two of my songs, so if anyone knows of a Roland that has that sound and meets these specs that would be extra great. (I hate to spend $400 on a Spectrasonics CD for just one vst sound). Thanks so much in advance for your suggestions!

Hoppie


If you can be OK with 73 keys (instead of 76), I'd recommend the Dexibell P3. It meets all of your requirements, except 73 keys, not 76. I'm quite happy with mine!


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Hoppie #2774720 10/22/18 09:24 PM
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I’ve never heard of Dexibell - will check it out! Thank you! 😊

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Digital Pianos with internal speakers that I'd recommend that meet your requirements:
- Yamaha P-125 (88 Keys) / P-121 (73 Keys)
- Roland FP-30
- Casio PX-560
- Kawai ES110

If you're willing to relax your internal speaker requirement, the Korg D1 would also be a good option. It's very affordable, has Korg's RH3 action which isn't the best, but it is very good at the price point and it has a decent piano sound. The PX-5S from Casio would also be worth taking a look at.



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Speakers aside the Studiologic midi controllers has been a focus of mine recently. Granted you need separate speakers and VSTs to make it functional.

The SL73 (with 73 keys obviously) is around 12kgs and easy to move around & whilst the action is a Fatar some might love it or hate it. I liked it enough that I returned mine to upgrade to the SL88 Grand (heavier on both weight and action) and now rarely play on my Roland.

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I like the internal speakers too. I gig with a Kawai ES8. It's heavier than your specs, but the tradeoff is that the key action is excellent, internal sounds are excellent, and it puts out a lot of sound through its speakers. You can do a coffeehouse/jazz jam/recetion background music sort of gig with no extra PA, or use them for stage monitoring. So, heavier, but all in one unit, which saves you on things like cables, PA, speaker stands, etc. Get a gig bag with wheels.

And for what you're planning, you don't want all of the extra cables, speakers, and software issues that come from external sound sources like iPads and VSTs. Get a board with sounds that you like hearing, and use those.


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Hi,

Does anybody played this:

http://www.dexibell.com/prodotto/vivo-p7/?lang=en

Any comments?

Jo

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Dexibell, in the piano area is a great choice. Speakers are quite decent as well. Other sounds, well, not so much. Very interesting instrument.


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Thanks so much everyone for your advice/insights! I really appreciate your help so much! I will be going out to audition some of these boards soon. 😊

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As the happy owner of a Roland FP-30, I can confirm that it has a "scat" sound, and a very interesting sound it is. But it works relatively poorly for Beethoven and Chopin, at least to my ears. smile


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