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Unique Disklavier Use #2768217
09/28/18 04:41 PM
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I'm sure someone has done this before but I haven't seen it. I didn't know you could play along with a Disklavier.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KC3GrzoQG9U

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Re: Unique Disklavier Use [Re: jarobi] #2768499
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I have loved Jacob Collier since his "Isn't She Lovely" recording. That was years ago and he is still going strong.

Yes, you can certainly play over a previously recorded performance, which Jacob does flawlessly in this video. One can also use "looping" for cool effects while playing as well. Check out this demonstration our own Hugh Sung did:

https://youtu.be/ocaKbT0DKqg


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Re: Unique Disklavier Use [Re: Rich Galassini] #2768558
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Originally Posted by Rich Galassini
I have loved Jacob Collier since his "Isn't She Lovely" recording. That was years ago and he is still going strong.

Yes, you can certainly play over a previously recorded performance, which Jacob does flawlessly in this video. One can also use "looping" for cool effects while playing as well. Check out this demonstration our own Hugh Sung did:

https://youtu.be/ocaKbT0DKqg

Rich, Can all this be done on the older Disklaviers or just the Enspire?

Re: Unique Disklavier Use [Re: jarobi] #2768564
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Originally Posted by jarobi
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Rich, Can all this be done on the older Disklaviers or just the Enspire?


Hi jarobi,

What model Disklavier to you own? Frankly I am not as familiar with older Disklavier operating systems, but, depending on what you have, it might be possible through the use of the DKC-850.


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Re: Unique Disklavier Use [Re: Rich Galassini] #2768604
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Rich, Can all this be done on the older Disklaviers or just the Enspire?


Hi jarobi,

What model Disklavier to you own? Frankly I am not as familiar with older Disklavier operating systems, but, depending on what you have, it might be possible through the use of the DKC-850.

I don't own one. In my piano shopping I have run across a few, but was never really interested in player systems, but after watching these videos I'm more interested. A new Yamaha Disklavier grand isn't in the budget, so I'd be looking at a III or IV on the used market.

Re: Unique Disklavier Use [Re: jarobi] #2768655
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Originally Posted by jarobi
Originally Posted by Rich Galassini
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Rich, Can all this be done on the older Disklaviers or just the Enspire?


Hi jarobi,

What model Disklavier to you own? Frankly I am not as familiar with older Disklavier operating systems, but, depending on what you have, it might be possible through the use of the DKC-850.

I don't own one. In my piano shopping I have run across a few, but was never really interested in player systems, but after watching these videos I'm more interested. A new Yamaha Disklavier grand isn't in the budget, so I'd be looking at a III or IV on the used market.

Next time you see one, try it and see what it does - I seem to recall (from decades ago) that it does. There were quite a few iterations of it, so some mightn't. I looked at them casually a few times over the years. At the time $$$ precluded investing in one, so I didn't look too seriously.

I had (still have) an ATARI Computer, Notator Sequencer (etc) with an old Roland JV-30 Synth which I'd do something similar - save a track, and improvise over the top of it. Alternatively, I'd save the "Teacher's Accompaniment" for my children's piano, violin, sax, trumpet etc repertoire (up to Diploma level) and my children could play along when I was at work. The thought of replacing the Roland with a proper piano was a dream which never eventuated - yet.

There are several player systems which you can get installed on your existing piano - that might be more affordable - though they're not exactly "cheap".


Alan from Queensland, Australia (and Clara - my Grotrian Concert & Allen Organ (CF-17a)).
Re: Unique Disklavier Use [Re: backto_study_piano] #2768664
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Originally Posted by backto_study_piano

Next time you see one, try it and see what it does - I seem to recall (from decades ago) that it does. There were quite a few iterations of it, so some mightn't. I looked at them casually a few times over the years. At the time $$$ precluded investing in one, so I didn't look too seriously.


It is not the Disklavier itself that allows the kind of looping in my video, backto_study_piano, it is the software available and the success of getting it to communicate with the Disklavier in real time. Look at my video again. It is more than overdubbing one track on top of another.

Originally Posted by backto_study_piano
are several player systems which you can get installed on your existing piano - that might be more affordable - though they're not exactly "cheap".


True, but none reproduce with nearly the same accuracy as the Disklavier.


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Re: Unique Disklavier Use [Re: jarobi] #2771708
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Hey Rich,
Great video III can I ask which software was used and further which recipe ... I am a disklavier lover (upright mk2+ dkc-850) .. id love to to this in real time... I see you are using a pedalboard middied probably... ;- )

Re: Unique Disklavier Use [Re: tintinlad] #2771881
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Originally Posted by tintinlad
Hey Rich,
Great video III can I ask which software was used and further which recipe ... I am a disklavier lover (upright mk2+ dkc-850) .. id love to to this in real time... I see you are using a pedalboard middied probably... ;- )


Hi tintinlad,

The "pedalboard" was an AirTurn Quad pedal that just controlled on/off for the looping. The program used was Ableton Live, however this is a little more complicated than just that.

I am not sure it would work with an mk2 + dkc850. Frankly, I am not sure it won't either, but it would take more investigation.


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Re: Unique Disklavier Use [Re: Rich Galassini] #2772590
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Thanks ill have a look into that... And keep going the good work ! :- )


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