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Kawai CA63 - suggested selling price? #2769039
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Hi all

New to this forum and about to take delivery of new piano, so my trusty Kawai CA63 will need to be sold. It's immaculate and I bought it new in 2012 for £2000.

Any idea what would be a fair price to ask for it? I can't find any for sale!

Many thanks

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Re: Kawai CA63 - suggested selling price? [Re: Crazyj] #2769055
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Somebody might think that it's a little better than a new Kawai CA-48 which is sold for £1500 or so. The specifications are still quite good. The next model upwards is the Kawai CA-58 which can be had for little below £2000.

Then there really isn't anything less expensive from Kawai with wooden keys available in UK, if all the old CA-17 units have been sold.

You could try £1500 and be willing to drop the price a little.

There are quite good new digital pianos in the £1500...2000 range from other manufacturers too, so it might be difficult to justify buying a used one for the same money.

Re: Kawai CA63 - suggested selling price? [Re: Crazyj] #2769061
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I think you're just about right, cloth-eared.
Try 1499. If it doesn't sell, list it at 1349. If it still doesn't sell try 1099.
Pianos are slow sellers, so patience wins.

Re: Kawai CA63 - suggested selling price? [Re: Crazyj] #2769072
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a £1000 max IMO in the UK and I think you'd be lucky if you can let it go at that, and don't go by inflated ebay prices. Even at that I wouldn't buy it personally.

I had the opportunity last year to buy a 18 month old ca67 for £850, sure a bargain, but the seller said that if there were no bids he would let it go at that. Since it was far away I had to include transport cost and go there to see it, that would have added another few hundred to get it moved at that distance. Someone outbit me, and it went for a £1000 or so in the end. Had it been near me I would have grabbed it at that price possibly.

Good deals do come by every so often if you are patient and (also look at gumtree for example) . There were dealers selling ex display CA67 in Essex somewhere for £1500 last year as new or ex display. I saw others for even less, a white CA67 for less then 1500 GBP brand new still boxed.

After all, it is an old model and has the predecessor action (If I am not mistaken) of the VPC1/CA17, so the action should be good even by today's standards (I suspect). Not sure if it is a dual or three sensor action. The sound engine is well outdated though. To be brutally honest, if the demos by Kawai are anythng to go by, it sounds horrible to me by standards of today, thin, metallic and no body to the sound whatsoever. Perhaps it is related to the recording but I assume it is line out, anyway, call me unimpressed.




The latest models sound better than that.

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Re: Kawai CA63 - suggested selling price? [Re: Crazyj] #2769092
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The CA63 uses the RM3 Grand action, which is two tiers (GF2, GF) + one generation (RM3 II) below the current best keyboard action, so it's not bad but not really up there with the best. I'm not even sure how it would compare to the current GF Compact action found in the current lower end CA series instruments. The sound is similarly outdated, using the UPHI engine.


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Generations don't matter.
Someone buying a used piano likely doesn't know GF2, GF, RM3 II, or UPHI.

Also ... when you're selling something, never be downbeat. Always upbeat.

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Re: Kawai CA63 - suggested selling price? [Re: Crazyj] #2769258
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Originally Posted by Crazyj
Hi all

New to this forum and about to take delivery of new piano, so my trusty Kawai CA63 will need to be sold. It's immaculate and I bought it new in 2012 for £2000.

Any idea what would be a fair price to ask for it? I can't find any for sale!

Many thanks

Jason



6 years old …… I would cut the price in half and see what happens.

If it does not sell in a month, drop the price and try again. And …. on and on and on until it is gone.

This is prime selling time (Christmas) so get on with it.

Good Luck

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