2022 our 25th year online!

Welcome to the Piano World Piano Forums
Over 3 million posts about pianos, digital pianos, and all types of keyboard instruments.
Over 100,000 members from around the world.
Join the World's Largest Community of Piano Lovers (it's free)
It's Fun to Play the Piano ... Please Pass It On!

SEARCH
Piano Forums & Piano World
(ad)
Who's Online Now
62 members (Barly, bobrunyan, brennbaer, 1200s, 36251, benkeys, 20/20 Vision, anotherscott, bcalvanese, 8 invisible), 1,776 guests, and 307 robots.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Hop To
Page 1 of 2 1 2
Joined: May 2001
Posts: 36,799
Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member
OP Offline
Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member
Joined: May 2001
Posts: 36,799
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/05/arts/music/leeds-piano-competition.html?rref=collection%2Fsectioncollection%2Fmusic&action=click&contentCollection=music&region=rank&module=package&version=highlights&contentPlacement=2&pgtype=sectionfront

Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 58
T
Full Member
Offline
Full Member
T
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 58
These changes definitely seem like a step forward. It might make the first round taking place across the world less prestigious, and considered a "prelim" to get into the real competition, but I see a lot more positives from this change. I'm really looking forward to seeing who moves on.

I also found it extremely interesting to hear that "performers have to put together a recital program with a written explanation of the thinking behind it." I wonder if the public gets to see these explanations. I would be really interested to hear what the contestants have to say!

PS Please please! take the effort to make these clickable links

Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 17,273
B
Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member
Offline
Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member
B
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 17,273
It's about time the Leeds is streamed live, like the other major (and not-so-major) competitions.


If music be the food of love, play on!
Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 4,291
P
4000 Post Club Member
Offline
4000 Post Club Member
P
Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 4,291
Here is a clickable link to the article cited in the OP.


Piano Career Academy - Ilinca Vartic teaches the Russian school of piano playing
Musical-U - guidance for increasing musicality
Theta Music Trainer - fun ear training games
Joined: May 2017
Posts: 463
F
Full Member
Offline
Full Member
F
Joined: May 2017
Posts: 463
Originally Posted by bennevis
It's about time the Leeds is streamed live, like the other major (and not-so-major) competitions.


Fanny Waterman and her friend Marion Lascelles were a formidable duo, and as long as they were involved in / running the competition, it was going to be done their way, with absolutely zero room for compromise whatsoever. I just can't see her agreeing to live streaming. It was hard enough to get her to agree to TV coverage.


The English may not like music much, but they love the sound it makes ... Beecham
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 806
C
500 Post Club Member
Offline
500 Post Club Member
C
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 806
I like the changes they are talking about in regards to reducing the cut-throat feel of competitions. I have attended several of the big ones and been friends with many competing, and it was pretty much always viewed as, at the very, least a super-stressful experience - and more often than not an outright negative one.

Anything they can do to give pianists more performance and learning opportunities is a good thing.

Last edited by computerpro3; 04/12/18 01:17 AM.

Shigeru Kawai SK7
Kawai NV10S
Hallet & Davis 165
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 17,273
B
Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member
Offline
Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member
B
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 17,273
Leeds relies on the goodwill of much of the amateur musician population in and around the city who own good pianos to house the competitors during the competition. So, they get to practice in nice homes, away from the hothouse atmosphere of the performing venue (Leeds Town Hall), and are well-fed and looked after. In return, their hosts get to hear up & coming (and established) concert pianists playing music at the highest standards on their pianos - not to mention sharing their highs and lows as they keep progressing (or not.....).

Fanny Waterman had been the driving force of the Leeds since she started the competition with Marion over half a century ago. Is there any other music competition which has had such consistent leadership over such a long period of time? It would be interesting to see where Paul Lewis takes it. It definitely needs more worldwide media exposure, in a world where yesterday's news is old hat. I'm surprise that Waterman didn't want TV coverage, if Fareham is right. She isn't shy of coming on TV to talk about the competition, as in this BBC TV documentary shown before the Leeds 2012:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spsO9DM-v_M


If music be the food of love, play on!
Joined: May 2017
Posts: 463
F
Full Member
Offline
Full Member
F
Joined: May 2017
Posts: 463
Originally Posted by bennevis.
I'm surprise that Waterman didn't want TV coverage, if Fareham is right. She isn't shy of coming on TV to talk about the competition, as in this BBC TV documentary shown before the Leeds 2012:


A good friend of mine was a programme manager seconded from Radio4 to BBC2, and Fanny Waterman was insistant that she didn't want cameras whirring and moving round the place during recitals, distracting the judges and performers. She was apparently fairly amenable to microphones as long as they were discreetly located (this was around the time I was at University 1969-72). After further representations and with the advent of ever more TV channels, she must have had her mind changed, and doubtless embraces the opportunities these days.


The English may not like music much, but they love the sound it makes ... Beecham
Joined: May 2017
Posts: 7
S
Junior Member
Offline
Junior Member
S
Joined: May 2017
Posts: 7
Originally Posted by bennevis
It's about time the Leeds is streamed live, like the other major (and not-so-major) competitions.

It is, https://leedspiano2018.medici.tv/

Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 17,273
B
Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member
Offline
Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member
B
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 17,273
The concerto finals are in four hours' time, and from what I heard in the semi-finals, the American Eric Lu (20) who won the 4th prize in the last Chopin Competition, is the hot favorite.

He's playing Beethoven's 4th on Saturday - in fact, the last of the five finalists to perform.

No Rach or Tchaik, and only one Prok........ grin


If music be the food of love, play on!
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 1,106
N
1000 Post Club Member
Offline
1000 Post Club Member
N
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 1,106
They have to prepare and submit the names of two concerti and then perform the one chosen for them (yes?)

Last edited by newport; 09/14/18 03:23 PM.
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 17,273
B
Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member
Offline
Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member
B
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 17,273
Originally Posted by newport
They have to prepare and submit the names of two concerti and then perform the one chosen for them (yes?)

Yes - maybe that's why there are hardly any big Russian warhorses among them, and heavily skewed towards Classical, unlike almost every other competition.

The first pianist (who played K491) gave Prok 2 as his other choice.


If music be the food of love, play on!
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 1,106
N
1000 Post Club Member
Offline
1000 Post Club Member
N
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 1,106
Originally Posted by bennevis
... No Rach or Tchaik, and only one Prok........ grin


In Barenboim's '5 Minutes On Beethoven's "Moonlight" Sonata', he said the sonata was played " ... in his youth, every second concert, now as if people are little tired of it, it's not so often played ...".


Maybe something similar is happening here?

Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 17,273
B
Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member
Offline
Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member
B
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 17,273
Originally Posted by newport
Originally Posted by bennevis
... No Rach or Tchaik, and only one Prok........ grin


In Barenboim's '5 Minutes On Beethoven's "Moonlight" Sonata', he said the sonata was played " ... in his youth, every second concert, now as if people are little tired of it, it's not so often played ...".


Maybe something similar is happening here?

I think that a different jury would have chosen completely different concertos for the finals. (Eric Lu's other choice is Chopin, for instance).

There are two students of Brendel (both steeped in the Viennese classics) in the jury, and we also know what Brendel thinks of the Russian warhorses........ grin


If music be the food of love, play on!
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 17,273
B
Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member
Offline
Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member
B
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 17,273
I'm presently listening to BBC Radio 3's live coverage of the finals, where the result is about to be announced in the next half hour or so.

Apparently, Leeds has been transformed into a piano city for the occasion, with 'pop-up' concerts and free twenty-minute piano lessons given by various competitors and members of the jury to anyone who dropped in off the street - including complete beginners who'd never touched a piano before as well as lapsed pianists who once learnt as kids.

Paul Lewis gave a concert on a digital piano in the "world's smallest concert hall" (a shipping container, apparently), and there are several pianos placed all around the city for anyone to play, including the train station - where a well-known British comedian played La cathédrale engloutie and a Gershwin prelude, a BBC newsreader and amateur pianist confessed that she suffered too much from stage fright to play in public, and an ex-politican played Bach. thumb

Hmmm, I don't suppose Warsaw or Moscow - or Fort Worth - go for that sort of thing during their respective competitions......


If music be the food of love, play on!
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 1,106
N
1000 Post Club Member
Offline
1000 Post Club Member
N
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 1,106
Originally Posted by bennevis
... (Eric Lu's other choice is Chopin, for instance). ........ grin


BTW, where do you see that?

I remember it was not so long ago people tried to collect every single Rach 3 recordings and also tried to rank them. Same with the Chopin Etudes.

Last edited by newport; 09/15/18 04:04 PM.
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 17,273
B
Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member
Offline
Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member
B
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 17,273
Originally Posted by newport
Originally Posted by bennevis
... (Eric Lu's other choice is Chopin, for instance). ........ grin


BTW, where do you see that?

From BBC Radio 3's commentators - you might be able to access it via www.bbc.co.uk/radio3


If music be the food of love, play on!
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 1,106
N
1000 Post Club Member
Offline
1000 Post Club Member
N
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 1,106
I wonder where Xinyuan Wang got his British (?) accent from??

Joined: Jul 2015
Posts: 343
B
Full Member
Offline
Full Member
B
Joined: Jul 2015
Posts: 343
Kudos to Eric Lu, first prize winner of 2018 Leeds! I caught his rendition of the Beethoven No. 4, very well played. No surprise that he won the orchestra prize as well. And his playing of the Chopin Ballade No. 4 was mesmerizing in the earlier rounds as well.


Estonia 190 #6209
Working on:
Liszt: Chasse Neige
Joined: Jul 2015
Posts: 343
B
Full Member
Offline
Full Member
B
Joined: Jul 2015
Posts: 343
And a shout out to 2nd place winner Mario Haring, who gave an outstanding account of the Beethoven No. 1, replete with the right hand glissandi prior to the recapitulation in the 1st movement. His scale work was faultless and he had great frisson connection with conductor Edward Gardner. The looks exchanged between the two at the end of the sublime 2nd movement says it all:
https://leedspiano018.medici.tv/replay/final-with-mario-h%C3%A4ring/

He also won the chamber prize for his account of the Beethoven Cello Sonata, Op. 69, with guest cellist Bjorg Lewis.
A 28 year old pianist of German/Japanese descent, he has great stage presence, charisma and handsome, runway model looks.

Hope he has an established and fruitful career.


Estonia 190 #6209
Working on:
Liszt: Chasse Neige
Page 1 of 2 1 2

Moderated by  Brendan, platuser 

Link Copied to Clipboard
What's Hot!!
Piano World Has Been Sold!
--------------------
Forums RULES, Terms of Service & HELP
(updated 06/06/2022)
---------------------
Posting Pictures on the Forums
(ad)
(ad)
New Topics - Multiple Forums
Country style lessons
by Stephen_James - 04/16/24 06:04 AM
How Much to Sell For?
by TexasMom1 - 04/15/24 10:23 PM
Song lyrics have become simpler and more repetitive
by FrankCox - 04/15/24 07:42 PM
New bass strings sound tubby
by Emery Wang - 04/15/24 06:54 PM
Forum Statistics
Forums43
Topics223,385
Posts3,349,194
Members111,631
Most Online15,252
Mar 21st, 2010

Our Piano Related Classified Ads
| Dealers | Tuners | Lessons | Movers | Restorations |

Advertise on Piano World
| Piano World | PianoSupplies.com | Advertise on Piano World |
| |Contact | Privacy | Legal | About Us | Site Map


Copyright © VerticalScope Inc. All Rights Reserved.
No part of this site may be reproduced without prior written permission
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5
When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community.