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Re: Considering a Hamburg Steinway B [Re: James Guo] #2761335
08/27/18 01:19 PM
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To the OP, you just can't go wrong with a good Steinway B, NY or Hamburg so it's your choice. I'd personally save the $$ and go with the NY B if it checks out. But I love my 1981 NY B. I do lean toward the NY Steinway sound from the "golden era".

To the NY vs Hamburg Steinway argument, I say let New York be New York and let Hamburg be Hamburg. In my estimation, both are lovely instruments. To my knowledge, I've never played a Hamburg, but I've listened to many of them, and I've played and heard my share of NY instruments. They both have a well-earned place in the piano industry.

If management at Steinway were to ask my, my only recommendations would be to take the time to make NY instruments more consistently to the highest NY Steinway standards (I do see that progression), then open marketing channels so that both NY and Hamburg instruments are available globally so that everyone can enjoy both of these iconic sounds and choose what they want.

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Re: Considering a Hamburg Steinway B [Re: GC13] #2761373
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Originally Posted by GC13
To the OP, you just can't go wrong with a good Steinway B, NY or Hamburg so it's your choice. I'd personally save the $$ and go with the NY B if it checks out. But I love my 1981 NY B. I do lean toward the NY Steinway sound from the "golden era".

To the NY vs Hamburg Steinway argument, I say let New York be New York and let Hamburg be Hamburg. In my estimation, both are lovely instruments. To my knowledge, I've never played a Hamburg, but I've listened to many of them, and I've played and heard my share of NY instruments. They both have a well-earned place in the piano industry.

If management at Steinway were to ask my, my only recommendations would be to take the time to make NY instruments more consistently to the highest NY Steinway standards (I do see that progression), then open marketing channels so that both NY and Hamburg instruments are available globally so that everyone can enjoy both of these iconic sounds and choose what they want.



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Re: Considering a Hamburg Steinway B [Re: joe80] #2765879
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Originally Posted by joe80

If you're shopping in the price range for a new Hamburg B, I would also look at two other seriously excellent pianos in the same price range. Spend some time with the Fazioli F212, go and try a few models - ask a Fazioli dealer to arrange for you to try some in Italy perhaps. Also, do the same with the Bösendorfer 214VC. I was allowed to play one in Vienna last week and frankly I nearly cried because I can't afford it (yet...).



Next time you are in Vienna, please drop by and have a look at and play my 1886 Steinway B. You might enjoy it.

As to the Faziolis and Bösendorfers, i believe the jury is still out there in regard to the new VC Bösendorfer. None of the ones I have heard so far really blew me away, but somehow I feel that given the right concert technician and a lot of time for him to work on the piano, this might become an exceptional piano, completely different from Steinways in character, therefore interesting.

As to Faziolis, I urge everyone to play a 228 when you have chance to do so. A Steinway C of the same size is a B that wants to be a D, whereas the Fazioli is a full concert grand in sound, touch, dynamic range and colors. The first time I sat down at one (some 25 years ago), I was totally flabbergasted at the difference between this one and a good Steinway C.

At that time I ended up buying a Yamaha CFIII-S directly from Yamaha in Germany, but that was just as much as price decision (it was really cheap) as that of sound. The Fazioli has had just the same massive bass sound and clarity and ringing quality as the Yamaha (which was a rental for their artist department).

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