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Wigmore Hall
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Does anyone know what kind of piano they have at Wigmore Hall? How many, what brands, and what sizes?

The question behind the question is, does the Hall accommodate a 9' concert grand?


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Can only help you to take a look at this video. Yes, looks like a Steinway D.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_n0xr1y95xk


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Wigmore was not always Wigmore - previously it was Beckstein Hall.


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I doubt it. Perhaps Bechstein Hall.


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I have seen a Steinway D and a Bosendorfer Imperial on stage together in Wigmore Hall.

The Bechstein Room (certainly not Beckstein!) downstairs is a tribute to the history of the venue as Bechstein's recital salon. Before the First World War, Bechstein were, I believe, the biggest piano dealership in the UK.

Wigmore hall is a superb recital venue.

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ch is right thank you but all still pronounce with the k
same thing with schedule - there is at least one exception I know of.


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err.. in England schedule is pronounced as 'shedule' not 'skedule'. HTH


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And Bechstein is not pronounced Beckstein, no more than Bach is pronounced Bak.


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Originally Posted by Fareham
err.. in England schedule is pronounced as 'shedule' not 'skedule'. HTH


Well, my wife is from England and she quit making that mistake years ago.


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And Bechstein is not pronounced Beckstein, no more than Bach is pronounced Bak.


At the concert hall I hear a very few people try to emphasize the ch when they say Bach - usually there from some remote part of Marin County and I always thought they had something stuck in their mouth when they talked.


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There are two Steinway D’s stored under the stage when not in use belonging to the Wigmore Hall . One is getting quite old now but has been restrung along with new hammers a few times, favoured by the regular accompanists for lieder. The other is much newer and does most of the work. Both pianos are serviced every ten days and tuned for every use.

Other pianos are used on request. These other pianos are supplied by the local dealer mostly as product placement opportunities.

The stage is larger than it looks and easily takes two pianos in soixant neuf formation plus 5-6 other musicians. It is in the shape of an apse.

It was renamed after the street it is on during the First World War, mainly because there was disagreement among the pretentious about how to pronounce Bechstein. smile. I still hear old ladies saying shteinway from time to time. They also say velmar. I haven’t the heart to tell them they were made across town in Clapham.

The dressing room pianos are two large Bösendorfer uprights from the sixties when there was a Bösendorfer dealer next door, a model O, and one or two Yamaha uprights.
The Bechstein room in the basement, a general purpose room with a bar and access to kitchens, has a large steinway upright.



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Originally Posted by rXd
There are two Steinway D’s stored under the stage when not in use belonging to the Wigmore Hall . One is getting quite old now but has been restrung along with new hammers a few times, favoured by the regular accompanists for lieder. The other is much newer and does most of the work. Both pianos are serviced every ten days and tuned for every use.

Other pianos are used on request. These other pianos are supplied by the local dealer mostly as product placement opportunities.

The stage is larger than it looks and easily takes two pianos in soixant neuf formation plus 5-6 other musicians. It is in the shape of an apse.

It was renamed after the street it is on during the First World War, mainly because there was disagreement among the pretentious about how to pronounce Bechstein. smile. I still hear old ladies saying shteinway from time to time. They also say velmar. I haven’t the heart to tell them they were made across town in Clapham.

The dressing room pianos are two large Bösendorfer uprights from the sixties when there was a Bösendorfer dealer next door, a model O, and one or two Yamaha uprights.
The Bechstein room in the basement, a general purpose room with a bar and access to kitchens, has a large steinway upright.



Thx for the details. Tell us, are the acoustics in Wigmore as superior as rumored?


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Yes. Though Glasgow's City Halls is a good rival. https://www.arup.com/projects/glasgow-city-halls

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Wigmore Hall has a nice, friendly, intimate feel about it. Some years ago I was in London for a week, and attended two recitals there, several days apart. I was very impressed when the lady in the ticket office remembered my name as I bought a ticket for the second recital. "My word, do you recall every concert-goer?" I asked. It turned out she remembered me because her dentist had the same surname!

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err.. in England schedule is pronounced as 'shedule' not 'skedule'. HTH


Because we went to a different shule. (Tho', to be fair, I am not in England).

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Originally Posted by David Boyce
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err.. in England schedule is pronounced as 'shedule' not 'skedule'. HTH


Because we went to a different shule. (Tho', to be fair, I am not in England).




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Originally Posted by Gene Nelson
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There are two Steinway D’s stored under the stage when not in use belonging to the Wigmore Hall . One is getting quite old now but has been restrung along with new hammers a few times, favoured by the regular accompanists for lieder. The other is much newer and does most of the work. Both pianos are serviced every ten days and tuned for every use.

Other pianos are used on request. These other pianos are supplied by the local dealer mostly as product placement opportunities.

The stage is larger than it looks and easily takes two pianos in soixant neuf formation plus 5-6 other musicians. It is in the shape of an apse.

It was renamed after the street it is on during the First World War, mainly because there was disagreement among the pretentious about how to pronounce Bechstein. smile. I still hear old ladies saying shteinway from time to time. They also say velmar. I haven’t the heart to tell them they were made across town in Clapham.

The dressing room pianos are two large Bösendorfer uprights from the sixties when there was a Bösendorfer dealer next door, a model O, and one or two Yamaha uprights.
The Bechstein room in the basement, a general purpose room with a bar and access to kitchens, has a large steinway upright.



Thx for the details. Tell us, are the acoustics in Wigmore as superior as rumored?


Like most auditoria, it depends on where you sit/stand. Also on whether you prefer to wallow in a confusion of sound or hear more clarity of detail. There is a small balcony (4-5 rows of seats) at the back that gives me good balance and clarity.

When attendance is part of the contract or I request a ticket, I’m obliged to sit where I’m told. I was once given a seat near the front that was normally chosen by one of the leading music critics. I found it acoustically claustrophobic.

I don’t know what a perfect acoustic is, there are so many criteria. The Wigmore hall must be personally experienced to really appreciate it.


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Originally Posted by rXd
It was renamed after the street it is on during the First World War, mainly because there was disagreement among the pretentious about how to pronounce Bechstein. smile.

The hall was originally built by Bechstein, their showroom was next door. The company was forced to cease trading in Britain in 1916 due to anti-German feeling during WW1. The showroom and hall were confiscated. The hall reopened under the new name "Wigmore Hall" in 1917.

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But is it Bechsteen or Bechstine?


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Stine. "ei" is pronounce like eye. "ie" is pronounce like a long "e" as in "see."


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