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Re: Yamaha p515 vs Roland FP90 [Re: halherta] #2760753
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Originally Posted by halherta


One is most likely better than the other...maybe not by much. They both are in the same category of portable digtal pianos i.e. ES-8, P515, FP-90 e.t.c. But one will likely be better. If that wasn't the case we'd all just go buy cheap casio keyboards and call it a day.


Sam Ash sells the 515 for $1500, the FP90 for $1800 and the ES8 for $2000. On paper, at least, the 515 promises to be of comparable quality to the other two. Will be interesting to see if Roland and Kawai respond with newer models in that category, or if they just drop the price of the current models.

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Re: Yamaha p515 vs Roland FP90 [Re: Jitin] #2760762
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Originally Posted by Jitin
The thing that no one commented on is which is better sound, I seen lot of videos on fp90, and sometimes I think the new Roland sound sucks , then some videos I’m not so sure, I actually kinda like it, especially when in a video they changed parameters in piano technician,


This happens to me for the Novus. Every time i see a video about it, the sound is phenomenal. If i sit down at my own, i sounds different and not like in the video. Regardless of speakers or headphones.


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Re: Yamaha p515 vs Roland FP90 [Re: halherta] #2760763
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Originally Posted by halherta
One is most likely better than the other...maybe not by much. They both are in the same category of portable digtal pianos i.e. ES-8, P515, FP-90 e.t.c. But one will likely be better. If that wasn't the case we'd all just go buy cheap casio keyboards and call it a day.

why would we all buy a cheap casio for the action, instead of the brand with an action we preferred over the casio?
individual preference for one action over another, does not make it definitely the best.

you can certainly get actions lighter than the roland pha50, if that is what interests you.


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Re: Yamaha p515 vs Roland FP90 [Re: Jitin] #2760767
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I just checked out Musician’s Friend and the shipping date for the black model is 10/26/18, and for the white 11/30/18. Other sites only say ‘shipping soon.’

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Re: Yamaha p515 vs Roland FP90 [Re: jeffscot] #2760777
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Originally Posted by Jefsco
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One is most likely better than the other...maybe not by much. They both are in the same category of portable digtal pianos i.e. ES-8, P515, FP-90 e.t.c. But one will likely be better. If that wasn't the case we'd all just go buy cheap casio keyboards and call it a day.

why would we all buy a cheap casio for the action, instead of the brand with an action we preferred over the casio?
individual preference for one action over another, does not make it definitely the best.

you can certainly get actions lighter than the roland pha50, if that is what interests you.




So there is a better piano then! And yes it can be different for different people. That doesn't mean that people aren't allowed to say Product A is better than Product B simply because it offends your sensibility.

I actually was leaning towards the Yamaha because of the better bang for buck, brand name & high level of quality control. But yeah I'm sorry. From now on I won't express my opinion on the internet without consulting with you first.



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Re: Yamaha p515 vs Roland FP90 [Re: halherta] #2760781
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Originally Posted by halherta
So there is a better piano then! And yes it can be different for different people. That doesn't mean that people aren't allowed to say Product A is better than Product B simply because it offends your sensibility.
I actually was leaning towards the Yamaha because of the better bang for buck, brand name & high level of quality control. But yeah I'm sorry. From now on I won't express my opinion on the internet without consulting with you first.

obviously you can state your opinion for preference.
that is not the same as stating that one product is better than the other.


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Re: Yamaha p515 vs Roland FP90 [Re: jeffscot] #2760782
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Originally Posted by Jefsco
Originally Posted by halherta
So there is a better piano then! And yes it can be different for different people. That doesn't mean that people aren't allowed to say Product A is better than Product B simply because it offends your sensibility.
I actually was leaning towards the Yamaha because of the better bang for buck, brand name & high level of quality control. But yeah I'm sorry. From now on I won't express my opinion on the internet without consulting with you first.

obviously you can state your opinion for preference.
that is not the same as stating that one product is better than the other.



On this forum...it goes without saying. Literally every other post someone is saying product A is better than Product B. Some give the "this is a opinion" disclaimer others don't. I don't see the problem here.



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Re: Yamaha p515 vs Roland FP90 [Re: halherta] #2760785
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Originally Posted by halherta
On this forum...it goes without saying. Literally every other post someone is saying product A is better than Product B. Some give the "this is a opinion" disclaimer others don't. I don't see the problem here.

i will have to agree to disagree.
we are here to learn.
stating opinion as fact misleads others.


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Re: Yamaha p515 vs Roland FP90 [Re: halherta] #2760802
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Originally Posted by halherta
From the reviews and youtube videos that I've seen so far, the FP-90 has better (if not by much) action and larger speakers. It also weighs a bit more 48lbs P515 vs 52lbs FP-90. But the P515 is like $1899 CAD and the FP-90 is $2699 CAD. That's a difference of about $800 CAD. In the US its $1499USD vs 1899USD so difference is 400USD. I think yamaha intentionally wanted to build something that in the same category/class as the FP-90 but at a lower cost.

And I think that they will very likely mightily succeed. From what I've seen so far, if the price differential was only a couple of hundred dollars, I'd definitely opt for the FP-90. But at a price differential of $800 CAD I'd go for the Yamaha.


One thing I have noticed on here is that certian brands cost more in various countries. Here the FP90 and P515 and ES8 are moreorless the same price (The ES8 is around £100 cheaper).

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Re: Yamaha p515 vs Roland FP90 [Re: ahumdrumoflife] #2760803
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Originally Posted by ahumdrumoflife
One thing I have noticed on here is that certian brands cost more in various countries. Here the FP90 and P515 and ES8 are moreorless the same price (The ES8 is around £100 cheaper).
So the ES8 is a comparative bargain in your country! Here in the US, it's 33% more than the P515 and 11% more than the FP90.

Re: Yamaha p515 vs Roland FP90 [Re: jeffscot] #2760810
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Originally Posted by Jefsco
Originally Posted by halherta
On this forum...it goes without saying. Literally every other post someone is saying product A is better than Product B. Some give the "this is a opinion" disclaimer others don't. I don't see the problem here.

i will have to agree to disagree.
we are here to learn.
stating opinion as fact misleads others.




Yeah let's agree to disagree. And yes the FP-90 is better than the P-515. Oh and by the way its not my opinion. It is a fact.

If a person is foolish enough to buy a $1500-$3000+ musical instrument based on some random dude's post on a forum on the internet and ends up not liking the piano and feeling mislead, they only have themselves to blame.



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Re: Yamaha p515 vs Roland FP90 [Re: halherta] #2760811
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Originally Posted by halherta
Yeah let's agree to disagree. And yes the FP-90 is better than the P-515. Oh and by the way its not my opinion. It is a fact.
If a person is foolish enough to buy a $1500-$3000+ musical instrument based on some random dude's post on a forum on the internet and ends up not liking the piano and feeling mislead, they only have themselves to blame.

wow! i certainly appreciate the roland fp90.
have not had a chance to demo the yamaha p515.

glad we could agree on something! thumb


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Re: Yamaha p515 vs Roland FP90 [Re: Jitin] #2760813
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If anyone is interested...In Canada:
- Kawai ES-8 costs $2300CAD approx $1,763.73USD
- Roland FP-90 costs $2700CAD approx $2,070.47USD
- Yamaha P-515 costs $1900CAD approx $1,457.00USD

There's approx $613USD spread between the FP-90 and the P515.



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hey! nice halherta!
good disclaimer for your posts. thumb


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I now see a shipping date of 12\7\18 for the P515 at Guitar Center. What happened to September?

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Originally Posted by Pete14
I now see a shipping date of 12\7\18 for the P515 at Guitar Center. What happened to September?

yamaha has been stating they would ship in september....
maybe these sites are taking presales into consideration and showing first availables!?


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Re: Yamaha p515 vs Roland FP90 [Re: Jitin] #2761017
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Yesterday went by a music store and there were 3 brands on display: Casio, Kawai & Roland. After trying a few models found the Roland FP30 an affordable alternative to the FP90. The DP30 is more portable although may not have all the features of a FP90. Like the textured keys that has the feel of real ivory.

Personally prefer the Yamaha sound to the Roland with the Supernatural sound engine. It's not always possible to compare a Roland to a Yamaha in a store since the ones that are authorized dealer of 1 brand doesn't usually carry the other. A while ago Roland used to be considered higher-end DPs with a more expensive price. Many Yamaha dealers also to carry Korg at the lower price range.

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Originally Posted by Jefsco
Originally Posted by Pete14
I now see a shipping date of 12\7\18 for the P515 at Guitar Center. What happened to September?

yamaha has been stating they would ship in september....
maybe these sites are taking presales into consideration and showing first availables!?




I wouldn't be surprise if they push their release date by a month or two. They'll definitely have them in stores before Christmas. Shame though as it would delay the possibility of me purchasing one.



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I'll do you one better in deciding.

I've owned the FP 90 for about a year before ditching it for a Yamaha p255. In terms of sound, the p255 is gorgeous. The FP 90 just doesn't have it in the modelling. It's a caricature of the real thing.

I've no interest in jumping 'up' to the p515 for the foreseeable future. Going to run the p255 into the ground first.

Kawai ES8 is a much inferior sound and then you've the clicking keys problem which is abysmal.

Yamaha p255 is the best portable dp on the market.

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P515 seems like a great piano for the price. If I was to upgrade my ES7 I would seriously consider it. The user manual is available for download. I’m wondering if NWX is triple sensor though?


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