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It's time to me to get serious about looking. I have the room for a grand piano ~6'.

Budget $7500, in your opinion should I get a lower end grand or a better vertical.

I did find a 1995 GE-1 5'1''. for a good price.(5K) are these any good?


Any shops you guys recommend preferably Santa Monica or North of there.

Thanks for your help I am getting super excited?


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Not sure about the pricing on the smaller Kawai. But most definitely pay Pierre Julia a visit at "Pierre's Fine Pianos " on Pico , just east of Sepulveda. Aside from Keyboard Concepts in Santa Monica or Van Nuys, there are not a proliferation of shops around anymore. wink

A singer I work with just bought a 6' Kawai older model at Pierre's store. It was more then 5K but a good solid piano. $7500 might be a little low for a grand but go see/hear for yourself. He usually has a good selection of Kawais , both grands and verticals. Pierre is a very low key, low pressure guy.


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I agree with Dave Ferris, "Pierre's Fine Pianos" is a nice piano shop. If you want to get a passport and do an excursion to the "Valley", we have Knauer Pianos on Ventura Boulevard in Tarzana, another branch of Keyboard Concepts on Van Nuys Boulevard, and the Hollywood Pianos in Burbank, a stone throw from the new Costco. And if you check Craigs List or Market Place on Facebook, there are more grands for sale than you can shake a stick at. Best of luck to you.


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I forgot about Knauer. Definitely worth a trip there. My friend almost bought a nice used Bechstein upright they had , it was maybe 6 years ago. He ended up with a 6' Bluthner off of Craigs List. Yes a lot of pianos on CL !


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Tx gents. I will give Pierre a visit. Indeed lots of piano's on Craigslist. I think I am going to try to find a hidden gem in there. Hopefully find a motivated seller and get a deal.

Any idea on price moving a 6' grand 50 miles?


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I like Hollywood Pianos in Burbank, but I don't know what they've got in your price range. It's worth giving them a call!


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Originally Posted by Learux
Santa Monica or North of there.


Knauer might be the closest -- it is if you take Topanga over the hill. Keyboard Concepts is closest if you take the 405.


Hollywood piano is farther, but likely to have more to choose from in your price range.





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I am actually in Santa Clarita. All these places are about 45 minutes if I leave at a good time. I am going to visit them.


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If a deal is worth the shlep, you might also consider Living Pianos in Santa Ana. At least google their web site, which will give you a good idea of their current stock.


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I traveled from Seattle to North Texas to pick out my instrument, so a sense of adventure is all but required.


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I travel extensively for work, adventure is the last thing I need.


There is a sufficient supply of piano's in the Los Angeles area, I don't want to complicate it.


Taking my budget into account(I can go up to 10k). Does it make sense to buy a piano 1500 miles away and then move it?


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Originally Posted by Learux
Taking my budget into account(I can go up to 10k). Does it make sense to buy a piano 1500 miles away and then move it?


Without a doubt you don't need to travel, with the exception of maybe a trip to Orange County for Living Pianos or Kim's Pianos.

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A strong second vote for Kim's Piano in Orange County. Super professional, super fair and easy to deal with. I bought my piano from Hollywood Piano. They have pianos in all price ranges and the sale was easy and a really good deal. When I needed service, they really came through as well. Of course Keyboard Concepts on Santa Monica Blvd near Centinella.

This piano player would take the really good upright instead of the entry level grand at $7500

My habit now is to always talk to the principal, that is, owner, manager, even if you have to make an appointment. Be it cars or pianos, I have never had luck or good experiences talking to the low level sales people.

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I sent you a PM Learux smile


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I visited the Steinway gallery on Wilshire last month. Not particularly relevant to this discussion (prices are ... um ... a little outside this range ... I consider it more of a museum than a store actually) but it was a beautiful store and the salesperson was a great pianist. Fun place to visit if you have time to stop by.


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Give you guys a quick update. I have visited 3 stores so far(Knauer piano's and two East Coast stores). First thing I learned is that size really matters. I have decided not to get anything under 5'5''

Played some amazing instruments. Bunch of Steinways, very nice playing and sounding piano but to small for me. I am fairly tall and my knee didn't fit comfortable under the piano.(Price is also an issue)

My favorite was a Bösendorfer, just an amazing instrument. I am not really worthy playing a piano that nice.

Played on a nice Boston loved it but was 20k. Are the Cheaper Boston's any good. After doing some research sound like it is a Kawai with a different name.

So far I seem to gravitate towards Kawai's RX-1 was really good and some of them are in my price range. Just a little bit older then I like.

This week I am going to visit a Yamaha dealer and see what they are all about. 6 month ago while looking for a Digital piano I played a Yamaha U3 which I loved.

Not ruling out a vertical yet. I am not really in a rush to get one and will wait for the right piano for me to be found

One thing that surprised me in a very good way, was how friendly the sales people were. I was expecting something similar to a car buying experience but was totally wrong.

On a final note after playing at least 20 different piano's I can say with 100 % confidence that the Casio GP-400 I bought 6 month ago was a very good buy.

The action on that piano is nothing but amazing. Too bad it doesn't sound like a grand piano.(Still sounds good especially with headphones)


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You do well to wait for the correct piano. Look around, let people know what you want, and something will appear.


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I would make a firm decision upright or grand .You can't do better for that price than for a Yamaha or Kawai piano made in Japan. Avoid grey market pianos. Many have had the life beaten out of them or put together badly when refirbished they all have great paint jobs so look good.You could find a good second hand yahama u1 or u3 for that price .Good luck !

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Originally Posted by Learux
I am fairly tall and my knee didn't fit comfortable under the piano.(Price is also an issue)

That's an easy problem to solve: Elevate the piano! A cheap solution is to use wood blocks or pieces of old carpet.


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