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Why go to workshops? #2759494
08/18/18 08:24 PM
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I am going to give a few reasons why I attend piano teacher workshops-
please expand on or add your own reasons, WHY or WHY NOT...
Thank you!

1. camaraderie with fellow teachers.
Piano teaching can be lonely- no staff meetings, no birthday of the month club, no break room chats. Coming together to learn is a big melting pot of instant companionship and understanding. And, I ran into a friend that lives a few hundred miles away now!

2. free stuff.
Yes, the books and the door prizes are actually useful!

3. teacher discounts.
a good percentage discount on books whether singles or pre-packaged, and even specials on pianos!

4. free lessons.
mini-recitals to demo music in the books, partial vids to show how students respond to teaching methodologies explained in person, page by page info to follow along, new tech and apps taught for us older ones, and how-to seminars on just about anything.

5. inspiration.
I have always said the the first year I do not learn something new, I will take a sabbatical. Although I watch videos (Piano Adventures has teaching apps) and there are links even on this site, other teacher sites, etc... nothing is the same as in person, asking and answering in a group setting, sharing and learning together.

And,
this last workshop I attended, I received one of the most wonderful gifts- the gift of a hymn.

Here's what happened-

At break, I spoke with the presenter. I wound up telling how I played my grandfather's favorite hymn for him when we visited. We shared how music evokes memories, and can be inspired by anything. How much the workshops help us teachers, and encourage us.
At close, after door prizes, he said there was a "special" gift for ...me! What could it be?

As teachers made final purchases, exchanged text numbers, and headed out ready for a new school year, the presenter played for me a mesmerizing arrangement of that same hymn I had played as a child for my "Little Papa." I was transfixed, swept back in time by the music's washing over me.

That is a moment I will treasure. It was gift of pure joy. I floated out with a smile the rest of the day. I can feel, and hear the memories.

And, that happened, just because I participated in a workshop.

Your turn!

Miss Belle


Learning as I teach.
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Re: Why go to workshops? [Re: missbelle] #2759582
08/19/18 12:29 AM
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The term "workshop" can be very broad. I like the ones that are purely pedagogical, presented by experts in the subject area. The best ones are those that offer me teaching tips that I can use immediately. Sadly, this accounts for maybe 5% of the workshops I've attended.

There are also workshops that are blatantly commercial in nature, especially the ones with the free stuff. It's even worse if the presenters don't know what they are talking about, or are unprepared to speak, or jump from topic to topic without any logic whatsoever.

The worst of the worst "workshops" are the ones that are commercial in nature, and they don't give you anything for free, and if you want to buy anything you have to buy the entire "packet," which often comes with one or two junk books that NOBODY wants.


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Re: Why go to workshops? [Re: missbelle] #2759812
08/20/18 09:03 AM
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Where are these workshops taught? Is it a regional thing? I honestly NEVER heard of workshops for piano teachers until I started reading this forum recently. Maybe that's because I grew up in a very rural area (ONE piano teacher in the whole county when I was young), but even in the much more urban (but hardly urbane) Austin, TX this still doesn't seem to be a "thing" (as the young folks say these days).

My perception is that a lot of music teachers, at least in this area, have a strong independent streak and resist joining professional organizations and what-not.


Austin Rogers, PhD
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Re: Why go to workshops? [Re: Dr. Rogers] #2759815
08/20/18 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Dr. Rogers
Where are these workshops taught? Is it a regional thing? I honestly NEVER heard of workshops for piano teachers until I started reading this forum recently. Maybe that's because I grew up in a very rural area (ONE piano teacher in the whole county when I was young), but even in the much more urban (but hardly urbane) Austin, TX this still doesn't seem to be a "thing" (as the young folks say these days).

My perception is that a lot of music teachers, at least in this area, have a strong independent streak and resist joining professional organizations and what-not.


The Texas Music Teachers Association web site states that it is one of the largest state affiliates of MTNA.


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Re: Why go to workshops? [Re: malkin] #2759834
08/20/18 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by malkin
The Texas Music Teachers Association web site states that it is one of the largest state affiliates of MTNA.


...and none of the teachers I know around here are members.


Austin Rogers, PhD
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Baldwin SD-10 Concert Grand "Kuroneko", Baldwin Upright, Yamaha P-255
Re: Why go to workshops? [Re: Dr. Rogers] #2759842
08/20/18 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Dr. Rogers
Originally Posted by malkin
The Texas Music Teachers Association web site states that it is one of the largest state affiliates of MTNA.


...and none of the teachers I know around here are members.


If you do a search on the website, there are around 75 members in Austin..,and that doesn’t include surrounding communities.

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Re: Why go to workshops? [Re: dogperson] #2759852
08/20/18 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by dogperson
If you do a search on the website, there are around 75 members in Austin..,and that doesn’t include surrounding communities.


Indeed. I did such a search before my previous search. I don't know any of those listed there, and none of the other teachers I DO know are listed. That's the point I was trying to make. We are far from a cohesive group.


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Re: Why go to workshops? [Re: missbelle] #2759867
08/20/18 12:31 PM
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OP here-

The workshops were through a local music store, and advertised to teachers via contact info given when I shopped on teacher discount.

Last year, Randall Faber was in town at another music store.
I have also met Mike Springer.

My credentials were not checked at the door, but it was music-y and geeky enough that only teachers would attend. smile


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Re: Why go to workshops? [Re: missbelle] #2759975
08/20/18 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by missbelle

My credentials were not checked at the door, but it was music-y and geeky enough that only teachers would attend. smile


So maybe they did a global assessment of your music-yness and geekiness and determined that you qualified. laugh


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Re: Why go to workshops? [Re: missbelle] #2760114
08/21/18 03:27 PM
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I like workshops. As long as they are really teaching something and not trying to just sell things. The best ones are the ones you have to pay for but that goes without saying.

There are also a lot of good webinars around. Usually, there is something to buy but it might be something you want.

Some do check credentials, others have you audition I think these are the best ones.


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Re: Why go to workshops? [Re: pavane1] #2760282
08/22/18 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by pavane1
The best ones are the ones you have to pay for but that goes without saying.

Actually, no. The absolute best ones can be free, as long as some branch of your local MTA is sponsoring the event. Three of the very best workshops I've ever attended were free, and they presented world-class speakers and pedagogues.

The funniest ones I've ever attended were the ones that required some kind of entry fee, and they still tried to sell you stuff that's junk. Or they give you a "packet" of seven catalogues plus one junk book that nobody wants. Or they unload some "free" book that contains errors and misprints.


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