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Brahms 118.2 question #2757050
08/09/18 09:11 AM
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The final chord in the A-section of Brahms 118.2 (a five-note A major chord with one note held from the previous measure) has an arpeggio mark spanning both hands, meaning I should play the four notes one after the other. But in the same passage at the end of the piece there is one arpeggio for each hand, meaning I should do simultaneous arpeggios, playing the bottom A-s at he same time. Is this a misprint in my edition (Peters), if so, which is the correct way to play this chord? Or should there indeed be a difference?

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Re: Brahms 118.2 question [Re: troglodyte] #2757106
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Dover edition has a 2 hand arpeggio for both. I'm sure there are several editions on IMSLP that you could consult as well.

Re: Brahms 118.2 question [Re: troglodyte] #2757914
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Both Henle and Konnemann show a single arpeggio in both places.

Also,Simrock, The First published version of the piece from 1893 - available on the Petrucci site) agrees with this.

Re: Brahms 118.2 question [Re: troglodyte] #2757920
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I have the Peters Edition you mention, but play both chords the same way. You want to hear that E singing through the chord, and the best way to get that is to clear the pedal while holding the tied E and then playing the four notes bottom up.

Re: Brahms 118.2 question [Re: troglodyte] #2758007
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You just play them exactly the same way.

Re: Brahms 118.2 question [Re: troglodyte] #2758083
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Thanks all, I'll keep doing what I always did, to play a singe arpeggio!


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