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Book Recommendations? #2756514
08/07/18 02:12 PM
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Does anyone have any composition books they recommend? Is there anything specific beyond generic music theory? Anything genre specific?


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Re: Book Recommendations? [Re: JohnSprung] #2757399
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John,

What do you want to do with composing, write piano music? In what style? Or do you want to learning the basics of stringing notes together?

It seems the assumption made is that composition as taught is about learning 20th century techniques. So I have the Persichetti 20th Century Harmony book as well as Materials and Techniques of Twentieth Century Music by Stefan Kostka. Traditional tonal composition methods are assumed to have been picked up while learning music theory. However as usual Google can be your friend, here's something I found that may be helpful.
https://www.artofcomposing.com/how-to-compose-music-101
The fact is there are many online courses for learning composition, that's just the first of many listed.

What they may not cover is what goes into notation, orchestration, recording and mixing. In addition each area of composition has its own peculiarities. For example, in choral music dynamics go above the staff.

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John, here are a couple texts I recommend:

Composing Music, by William Russo

The Complete Idiot's Guide to Music Composition, by Michael Miller

(Sorry about the title of that second book--I mean no offense suggesting that to you. It's simply a book I enjoyed and find useful.) smile

BTW, the Russo is a worktext, with blank staves included for each exercise. The Miller book also has exercises, but you provide your own manuscript paper on which to do them.

Best wishes to you!

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Originally Posted by Steve Chandler
What do you want to do with composing, write piano music? In what style?


The style/genre I've tried to write in is what was popular in the 1920's - 40's, Great American Songbook stuff. I'd love to be able to write catchy tunes like Cole Porter did, of course that may be a bridge too far.... I have one finished song (maybe not so good, maybe not really original) and a couple bits and pieces so far.

Thanks for the recommendations, I've ordered the Russo and Miller books.


-- J.S.


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