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Same measure same octave #2756389 08/07/18 04:53 AM
Joined: Mar 2017 Posts: 384 Elche Spain Sol Finker OP Full Member
OP Sol Finker Full Member Joined: Mar 2017 Posts: 384 Elche Spain	After several months of playing - learning - 2 Voice Invention #13 I've just realized I may have been playing the following note wrongly. I've been playing it natural since there is another #F in the same measure - another octave I must admit - and it sounded good to me natural. Now I hesitate. In fact, I think I was wrong. Thank you for your help. Jaime CLP-645

Re: Same measure same octave Sol Finker #2756390 08/07/18 05:07 AM
Joined: May 2015 Posts: 12,370 At the back of the North Wind S SouthernZephyr PW Gold Subscriber Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member
SouthernZephyr PW Gold Subscriber Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member S Joined: May 2015 Posts: 12,370 At the back of the North Wind	Hi The second F in the bass is sharped, because the first F i(first note of the measure) in the bass is sharped. The accidental, in the same octave, continues for the entire measure, even though it is not marked. It is easy to miss these in the score

Re: Same measure same octave SouthernZephyr #2756394 08/07/18 06:53 AM
Joined: Jan 2018 Posts: 3,487 In the Ozarks of Missouri NobleHouse 3000 Post Club Member
NobleHouse 3000 Post Club Member Joined: Jan 2018 Posts: 3,487 In the Ozarks of Missouri	Originally Posted by dogperson Hi The second F in the bass is sharped, because the first F i(first note of the measure) in the bass is sharped. The accidental, in the same octave, continues for the entire measure, even though it is not marked. It is easy to miss these in the score +1

Re: Same measure same octave Sol Finker #2756427 08/07/18 09:58 AM
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akc42 500 Post Club Member Joined: Dec 2017 Posts: 658 Just outside London UK	I am just learning this piece too and agree with the F# as the answer. But I am puzzling on the LH fingering - completely different from my Henle edition and different from what I play which is 4212 242 5421 2351 5312 1241 421

Re: Same measure same octave Sol Finker #2756468 08/07/18 11:28 AM
Joined: Mar 2017 Posts: 384 Elche Spain Sol Finker OP Full Member
OP Sol Finker Full Member Joined: Mar 2017 Posts: 384 Elche Spain	The picture is from the Busini Edition The one I am actually playing has another fingering, as you can see herein. Jaime CLP-645

Re: Same measure same octave SouthernZephyr #2756480 08/07/18 11:47 AM
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emenelton 1000 Post Club Member E Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 1,623	Originally Posted by dogperson Hi The second F in the bass is sharped, because the first F i(first note of the measure) in the bass is sharped. The accidental, in the same octave, continues for the entire measure, even though it is not marked. It is easy to miss these in the score I am not sure I see a second F in the bass; ?

Re: Same measure same octave emenelton #2756481 08/07/18 11:49 AM
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SouthernZephyr PW Gold Subscriber Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member S Joined: May 2015 Posts: 12,370 At the back of the North Wind	Originally Posted by emenelton Originally Posted by dogperson Hi The second F in the bass is sharped, because the first F i(first note of the measure) in the bass is sharped. The accidental, in the same octave, continues for the entire measure, even though it is not marked. It is easy to miss these in the score I am not sure I see a second F in the bass; ? Measure 2 note 1 Measure 2 note 8

Re: Same measure same octave SouthernZephyr #2756485 08/07/18 11:58 AM
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emenelton 1000 Post Club Member E Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 1,623	Originally Posted by dogperson Originally Posted by emenelton Originally Posted by dogperson Hi The second F in the bass is sharped, because the first F i(first note of the measure) in the bass is sharped. The accidental, in the same octave, continues for the entire measure, even though it is not marked. It is easy to miss these in the score I am not sure I see a second F in the bass; ? Measure 2 note 1 Measure 2 note 8 Oh thanks I was looking at the first measure and didn't see the red arrow from the op sorry

Re: Same measure same octave emenelton #2756490 08/07/18 12:19 PM
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SouthernZephyr PW Gold Subscriber Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member S Joined: May 2015 Posts: 12,370 At the back of the North Wind	Originally Posted by emenelton Oh thanks I was looking at the first measure and didn't see the red arrow from the op sorry No problem at all.... we all do it ðŸ˜Š

Re: Same measure same octave Sol Finker #2756497 08/07/18 12:43 PM
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JohnSprung 6000 Post Club Member J Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 6,272 Reseda, California	You might want to pencil in a parenthetical sharp. That way if you return to this piece in the future, you'll remember.... -- J.S. Knabe Grand # 10927 Yamaha CP33 Kawai FS690