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Re: Who plays a more expensive/valuable piano than the car?
swampwiz #2755088 08/01/18 05:04 AM
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My last three cars have been pretty expensive. Including one that was still over six figures despite being purchased used. I use my spinal cord injury to rationalize it. But who am I kidding? Expensive cars are a foolish indulgence. Clearly I am a fool. Sigh.

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Re: Who plays a more expensive/valuable piano than the car?
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Originally Posted by Fidel
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if the question were asked of PW members ‘If you have &100,000 to spend On either a car or piano, which would you choose? ‘ would anyone here choose the car?


Can I keep the excess? I'd buy a used concert grand from one of the online sellers, refurbish it, and have $60k - $70k leftover. That would be sweet!

But to your question, I can't imagine a pianist choosing the car unless they already have their dream piano.


If purchased new I think my B would probably equate to nearly triple what I paid for my relatively new diesel Chevy Colorado pickup, which I've had since Christmas. As far as luxury vehicles go I know a tech worker with relatively zero creative outlets or hobbies who just buys toys and recently treated himself to a decked-out Tesla Model X and I'm like "Hmm...that's almost the price of a D if you look hard enough." The piano is easily the most valuable thing I own that isn't my home. And if I was given another 100K to spend on a piano or a nicer vehicle I'd probably buy a second piano and race them.


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I can see a new thread coming on here. Who plays a more expensive piano than their house?


Someone who doesn't live on a US coast that's for sure


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I had a customer who owned a new Steinway D, and lived in a large trailer house. I think the piano cost more than the house.
I admired their priorities.


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Depends....my piano (1997 M&H A) and my husband's motorcycle (1999 Harley) are pretty much equivalent, both initial cost and yearly maintenance (chrome for the Harley, tuning and piano lessons for the piano).

But I just bought my first car ever - a 98 Blazer, which so far (we have replaced an oil line and brakes, but still have to do something about the transmission) costs a fraction of either the piano or the motorcycle.

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My current piano 2012 Yamaha C3 was more expensive than our used truck but somewhat less expensive than my 2013 BMW X3. I’m done trading up pianos, my C3 is gorgeous and can play better than I can ever hope to achieve. Then again, my BMW is far more driving machine than I’ll ever be able to fully appreciate. The joy and thrill of playing that Yamaha with its incredible sustain makes me a happy retired old f@rt. Driving the X3 around twisty mountain roads also makes me happy!


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LOL, I have a used 2008 Scion XD in burnt orange that I just love. Got it 2 years ago for $4000. I plan to have it until it falls apart. Almost every piano I've owned over the last 20+ years cost more than it. smile


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I puchased my first car, a used Ford Taurus, for $5,000 in 1995. A year later, I bought a new Yamaha Midi Piano (now called Silent Piano) for just under $6,000. It is basically a U1 with silent play capability.

In 2004 I purchased my second piano, a 1998 RAV4, for $5,000. That has been my only car ever since.

Given that piano stores regularly sell 30 year-old U1s for $5,500, I would think that I could probably sell my piano for $6,000. My car, on the other hand, would probably not get more than $1,000.

I mostly play my dad's 1974 Mason & Hamlin A, which he bought new for somewhere between $4,000 and $5,000. It is in good playing condition, and I would think it would sell for at least $6,000 as well. In fact, if I were aware of an identical piano for sale for $6000, I would probably buy it and put it in my brother's house. He is the only one of my four siblings who does not have a piano.

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My pre owned model D cost about as much as the best price I can get on a new Grand Sport today. Its way more than my Challenger cost back in 09. Waiting for the 2020 Grand Sport since its a mid engine redesign. Its bound to be more than I paid for the D back in 07.

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I bought a brand new Estonia 190 and the most expensive car I've ever owned was a used one at around $5000. So yeah..


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Some days ago I visited the Cobbe Collection, Hatchlands Park, Souther England. There are - besides of some 40++ pianos and harpsichords - nine concert grands, three of the Erard brand, three of the Pleyel brand, and three of the Broadwood brand. Two of them are pianos which the master of romantic piano, Frederic Chopin, has laid his hands on, the Broadwood grand of his ever last concert in London 1848, and the Pleyel grand of his scottish pupil Jane Stirling which he played on his 1848 travel to Scotland several times, which is of same type like his last one which is now in Warsaw, Poland but in unplayable condition.

For an original piano of original sound of the Chopin era I could be tempted to sell the house and every car and every Marklin model locomotive and my wine cellar and and and...


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Purchase price-wise, each of my Steinways is more expensive than either of the two cars we own. In fact, each Steinway is almost the sum of the two cars.


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Originally Posted by LJC
My pre owned model D cost about as much as the best price I can get on a new Grand Sport today. Its way more than my Challenger cost back in 09. Waiting for the 2020 Grand Sport since its a mid engine redesign. Its bound to be more than I paid for the D back in 07.


That’ll be some car. I used to have a C6. I currently drive a rear engine flat 6 vehicle, and it was way more expensive than my piano. I use it nearly as much but love it just as much. Another flat 6 is in order - this one mid engine.... also not yet available.

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New Honda Fit in 2007 (sport version) about $20,000 Canadian. New Brodmann 187 Grand in 2010 about $15,000 Canadian - before taxes
Both have been great vehicles to this point.

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The cost of car and piano are exactly the same, $0.00

I've never owned a car and I am "storing" a piano that I get to use. On the other hand I am restoring a craftsman brown shingle and will get a grand after completion. The total will be upwards of a half million. The grand will cost something too. Living on the coast has advantages, but cheap isn't one of them.

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CMB13 - I had no idea Porsche was going mid engine, as for the new Corvette it will be incredible. Did you know they race prepared the current Z06 and beat the new mid engine Ford GT track time by quite a bit that had won Lemans. In some ways although quite different it will sound as good as the Steinway.

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LJC The mid engine flat 6 I'm referring to is a GT4; the new one is going to have a slightly detuned GT3 engine, according to the rumors. Deposit in. That along with a Targa will be my ideal garage! And yes, the sound is sublime! My C6 had Borlas on it, and that sounded pretty nice also smile.


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I might be the only one in this situation -
I bought a new Kawai K-500 in 2014
I bought a 1988 Jaguar XJ-S a few months ago
The piano cost $2.6k more than the car, but there's a good chance the car will hold its value better and overtake the piano.

Of course, there's no question which one costs more to run! eek

And as for sound, the Jaguar came fitted with a silent system (presumably for late night practice) but it's currently away getting the volume turned up. We'll see how it sings when the exhaust modifications are finished. thumb

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I had to look up the value of our Prius last week and was shocked to find that it's only worth $2000-2500 now! My piano is worth, uh, a lot more smile


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A slightly different take on this thread:



Purchased an expensive new car earlier this year (a merc): I am now regretting it: I have since restarted my search for a grand and i could sorely use the money on the piano!

I have yet to buy my piano - the car is a main reason....

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First of all, LJC it is great to "see" you here! I have not seen a post from you (nor seen you in person) in quite a while.

I have never owned what I feel is an expensive car. The closest I have gotten is when I purchased a used E series Mercedes station wagon and drove it for almost a decade. Frankly, I was not shopping for a Merc. or for a wagon, but this was just such a deal!

Anyway, I am not in the same situation as most here. I own a piano company that is famous for restoration, so I can have just about any piano in my home that I choose. I currently have a Matchless Cunningham Parlour Grand, but I have had instruments in my home that have cost many times more than any car I have ever purchased. I think that over the life of any piano they will beat most any automobile (in everyday use) in holding value.

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