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Re: iLoud Micro users here? [Re: EVC2017] #2747062
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Originally Posted by EVC2017
Hi, Digitalguy, thank you very much. No need to apologize.

I liked the Presonus because they are relatively small (compared to other 5in monitors) and because they are front ported. I liked the iLoud sound (I do not look for perfect sound - I would use the HD598 for that) but I think for the intended purpose the Eris may be better. It is a pitty the iLoud is so expensive here in Brazil otherwise I would buy it anyway.

Just curious, have you observed that buzz in some notes?

Again, thanks for your help.


Not been able to observe any buzz so far... (please note I keep the -3db bass always on).
I too use HD598 (there are 2 pairs in the picture, the new black one and the old brown one which you can hardly see) and love them. I would say they are half way between the eris and the iloud in terms of bass. They have a slight bump between the second and third octave, but they don't need EQ. But compared to a perfectly neutral headphone like the Focal Spirit Pro you can clearly tell the difference. With the Eris you have a more neutral sound (therefore less bass).
Anyway the Eris (and the Iloud for that matter), while not as good as the HD598, are so much better than the built-in speakers of my Roland....


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Re: iLoud Micro users here? [Re: EVC2017] #2750114
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A quick update: I decided to order a pair of Eris 5. Today I played with them (in all senses).

First impressions:
1- I love its compactness.
2- Sound is nice but bass sounded boomy on a desk.
3- Sounded very decent, especially with the piano. Bass response sounds pretty decent, considering their low frequency drivers size.

Along the process of making it sound better (less boomy) I tried it with my two pianos, doing a A/B comparison and in the end I found I had to raise them far from the desk surface, at first with books, later with a stack of polypropylene foam. I will make a proper support for them. I also found I will have to put some sound barrier to avoid resonance in the room (a specific key sounded weird and louder until I put a blanked behind me.

Overall I am prety satisfied with the purchase.

I intend to buy the iLoud too. For experimentation (especially with the ES8) and further to listen to music and using with the piano(s).


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Re: iLoud Micro users here? [Re: EVC2017] #2750465
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Originally Posted by EVC2017

I intend to buy the iLoud too. For experimentation (especially with the ES8) and further to listen to music and using with the piano(s).

I actually made a video that directly compares the iLoud Micro Monitors with the Kawai ES8:

https://youtu.be/1SDFLl6hI00


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Re: iLoud Micro users here? [Re: EVC2017] #2750474
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I saw your video. It was one of the reasons why I considered iLoud, along with the comments on it. I also saw some comparisons between it and other monitors and it was favorable to it. As Eris 5's were compared with other monitors. Digitalguy's comments also helped me to make a final decision towards both.


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Re: iLoud Micro users here? [Re: EVC2017] #2750526
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Originally Posted by EVC2017
A quick update: I decided to order a pair of Eris 5. Today I played with them (in all senses).

First impressions:
1- I love its compactness.
2- Sound is nice but bass sounded boomy on a desk.
3- Sounded very decent, especially with the piano. Bass response sounds pretty decent, considering their low frequency drivers size.

Along the process of making it sound better (less boomy) I tried it with my two pianos, doing a A/B comparison and in the end I found I had to raise them far from the desk surface, at first with books, later with a stack of polypropylene foam. I will make a proper support for them. I also found I will have to put some sound barrier to avoid resonance in the room (a specific key sounded weird and louder until I put a blanked behind me.

Overall I am prety satisfied with the purchase.

I intend to buy the iLoud too. For experimentation (especially with the ES8) and further to listen to music and using with the piano(s).



Ideally you need to put them on a stand, and since they are light any cheap stand will do.... On a stand they don't sound boomy at all, contrary to the iloud.
When at home I don't use the iloud as the eris are overall better. But I am leaving on a trip (I am at the airport right now) and it's the micro that are in my luggage....


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Re: iLoud Micro users here? [Re: EVC2017] #2750537
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Are these speakers able to fill a living room? Or just enough for a "near-field" desktop ... or keyboard-top area?

Re: iLoud Micro users here? [Re: MacMacMac] #2750547
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Originally Posted by MacMacMac
Are these speakers able to fill a living room? Or just enough for a "near-field" desktop ... or keyboard-top area?

it depends on what you feed them with, but they both can get very very loud

PS Here I have an acoustic baby grand and will be comparing the loudness of the micro with it when I have some time to play


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Re: iLoud Micro users here? [Re: EVC2017] #2751047
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Just for information I am on holiday at my family's place, where I have the acoustic grand I grew up with a my old GEM WX2 from 25 years ago, which I use as my midi keyboard here. I brought my iloud micro this year too.
3 remarks:
1. having a much bigger room than the one in my apartment in Switzerland I can feel less the overemphasized bass of the iloud micro, so they sound better here (unless it's simply because I don't have my eris to compare to, but I guess room acoustics plays a role, and in a 18 sqm room the bass will boom more than in a 35 sqm one).
2. concerning volume, the micro can be much louder than my baby grand, both with my ipad and with my pc.
3. none of my virtual pianos is anywhere near to fool me into thinking it's an acoustic and the main reason is sympathetic resonance and in virtual pianos it's much less (you can play a lot with reverb, but that's something else, there is hardly any way to increase the sympathetic resonance up to a realistic level)


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Re: iLoud Micro users here? [Re: EVC2017] #2751756
07/15/18 06:53 PM
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I decided to bite the bullet and bought the iLoud micro. I listened to videos and songs through it and it sounds nice (I think what is not that good is the recording quality, especially youtube videos or maybe the bluetooth connection causes some quality loss or both).

I connected the iLouds to my ES8. So far, so good: it sounds better than the built-in speakers. Right now I am listening to the demo songs. Later this week I will try it side by side with the Eris 5 just for fun and out of curiosity.

Digitalguy, it is certainly loud enough for a small room. I would not set it too loud anyway but it gives room for loud passages without loosing sound quality.

Again, thank you very much for your help.


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Re: iLoud Micro users here? [Re: EVC2017] #2768400
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I'm interested in the micro too as monitors for my upcoming mp7se.

The max distance between the speakers is not enough for me.
I have a L configuration with 2 keyboards and wish to place the iloud at both ends.

Do you know what type of connectors they utilise in order to purchase an extension cable?

or good alternatives with good low freq response? I don't need high volume at all

thx

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Re: iLoud Micro users here? [Re: varignet] #2768547
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Originally Posted by varignet
I'm interested in the micro too as monitors for my upcoming mp7se.

The max distance between the speakers is not enough for me.
I have a L configuration with 2 keyboards and wish to place the iloud at both ends.

Do you know what type of connectors they utilise in order to purchase an extension cable?

or good alternatives with good low freq response? I don't need high volume at all

thx

They use RCA (also a stereo 3.5" jack but this is more for your smartphone...) Please note that all ports are on 1 speaker and there is a provided cable to connect to the other speaker (which has no ports)


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Re: iLoud Micro users here? [Re: EVC2017] #2768556
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I think he means the cable between speakers. I commented about them in another thread:

http://forum.pianoworld.com/ubbthre...kawai-es8-digital-piano.html#Post2768508

To be honest, I do not see the point of a longer cable, especially in an "L" configuration of the keyboards.

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Re: iLoud Micro users here? [Re: EVC2017] #2768586
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How are you finding the eris e5 evc2017?

I'm considering the e5

Re: iLoud Micro users here? [Re: EVC2017] #2768616
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I like them. They have a response good enough for my needs. Even the bass is enough even if their response is specified around 50-ish herts. Some people would want to add a subwoofer but I find it unnecessary. I even remember somebody in a forum (most likely this one) saying that he has the subwoofer in his setup (I don't remember the monitors make) but does not use it most of the time.

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Re: iLoud Micro users here? [Re: EVC2017] #2768627
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thanks, I see you have the es8, I'm familiar with its sound, how do the e5 compare to its onboard speakers?

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I use the e5's with the RD2000. The iLouds are meant to the ES8 but I still need to find a safe (maid proof) way to place them over the piano. I heard the ES8 through the E5's once, when I controlled it through the RD (they) are in different rooms. Without any doubt it sounded better than the original speakers. Same applies the few times I used the iLouds. However, I have to say I do not dislike the original speakers, I think they are pretty decent considering the size. And I am lazy so most of the time I use the ES8 that I just need to press one button and wait 5 seconds to play. I even learned to tolerate the clicks on the keybed I hope to get rid of when I have a few days off to work on it.


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