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1GB NP4 vs 2GB NS3 wrt Nord Piano Library #2750963
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What is the actual technical impact of 1GB for the Nord Piano Library on the Nord Piano 4, versus the 2GB on the Nord Stage 3? Does it affect the quality of a single library, or is it about having multiple libraries loaded simultaneously?

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Re: 1GB NP4 vs 2GB NS3 wrt Nord Piano Library [Re: xorbe] #2750971
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The latter.

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Originally Posted by anotherscott
The latter.
Thanks! Just unnecessarily pining for a new gadget after some years. My RD-700NX is 8 year old tech, but having read up on the RD-2000, it's not the one. So little has changed in general for all brands, it seems.

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All the samples are the same, regardless of Nord instrument. There might be better actions, or better reproduction, but the source files are identical.

I recently bumped up to a Nord Stage 3 Compact with 2 GB of piano memory. That lets me load more than a few XL samples. Of course, the action is pure organ, but I drive it with my trusty Nord Piano 2. For the most part, the L samples are more than adequate -- except when you're doing something "special".


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Re: 1GB NP4 vs 2GB NS3 wrt Nord Piano Library [Re: xorbe] #2751969
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After realizing that 2TB ssds have been on sale recently as low as $250 shipped, I kind of lost interest in Nord when they charge $1300 for an extra 1GB / unlocked features, it seems like a stone age product. Maybe next year will bring something more interesting from someone. I also wandered through the Nord online library ... did I miss something? The non-piano samples seem low quality.

What I wanted to do was buy something different for myself, and park the 700NX at my dad's house for a while. Then me and my brother have something to play when visiting dad. Sort of some open ended window shopping. Maybe something generic like a DGX-660 would fit the bill for a "family gathering" dp, hah.

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Originally Posted by xorbe
After realizing that 2TB ssds have been on sale recently as low as $250 shipped, I kind of lost interest in Nord when they charge $1300 for an extra 1GB / unlocked features,.

This is basically like saying, "After learning that a gallon of tap water costs under a penny, I've lost interest in driving, when they charge over $3 for a gallon of gas." The fact that SSDs and the stuff Nord puts in a keyboard are both measured in megabytes dosn't mean they are any more similar than water and gasoline which are bot measured in gallons.

However, I agree that the (non piano) sample library is not as high quality as many other boards, it simply doesn't have the same kind of architecture for those sounds, not supporting things like multiple velocity levels or alternate articulations. You just kind of have to accept, that's not what Nord does, and if that's what you need, this isn't the board for you. Unless maybe it's part of a complementary pair.

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High end cpu engineer here, sorry but flash ram is flash ram, water vs gas where did you cook up a comparison like that, lol. Of course that price bump includes more knobs and sliders and after touch and the unlocked feature set which is really the where premium is, not the memory. Anyway.

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Originally Posted by xorbe
High end cpu engineer here, sorry but flash ram is flash ram, water vs gas where did you cook up a comparison like that, lol. Of course that price bump includes more knobs and sliders and after touch and the unlocked feature set which is really the where premium is, not the memory. Anyway.


We had a recent friendly debate around flash memory last month that you will enjoy. Feel free to start here:

http://forum.pianoworld.com/ubbthre...mple-memory-is-in-there.html#Post2749965

Re: 1GB NP4 vs 2GB NS3 wrt Nord Piano Library [Re: xorbe] #2751997
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Originally Posted by xorbe
High end cpu engineer here, sorry but flash ram is flash ram

Absolutely not.

Get a basic overview about NAND flash vs. NOR flash at https://www.micron.com/~/media/documents/products/product-flyer/nor_nand_flash_guide.pdf

(And there are actually even sub-categories, different kinds of NAND flash and different kinds of NOR.)

What Nord does requires NOR flash, its functionality is as different from NAND flash as RAM is different from a hard drive (RAM and hard drive being another example of things that are functionally quite different and not interchangeable despite both being measured in the same units, like water and gasoline, or sugar and flour if you prefer). Then check your engineering sources and look at the price difference between a gigabyte of NOR flash and a gigabyte of NAND flash. It is analogous to comparing a gigabyte of RAM vs. a gigabyte of hard drive storage.


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