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Re: Yamaha P-515 portable digital piano [Re: CyberGene] #2749931
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Originally Posted by CyberGene
This is a good competitor to ES8 IMO.

As I recently reported the supposedly "better" action in CLP675 is a total disaster and that's confirmed by other people on the forum too. So, it's the right decision to stick to their proven NWX action which is on par with Kawai RH3.

Furthermore, I think the new CFX patch in the latest Yamaha pianos is better than the piano sounds of Kawai, even if only very slightly. Yamaha also have the best harpsichord IMO and some of their other sounds are very good. If the sound system is comparable to that in the ES8, then it's a good achievement. Modeling has proven ineffective so far, and I applaud Yamaha for sticking to sampling smile


The ES8 has been with us some time now. A new one designed to make a good impression (ie, blow the rest out of the water) may well be in the offing, soon.
Now, I tried one only a few days ago and the sound samples were good; each piano was distinct and well usable. The biggest let down, as with most portables is in the sound. It has hitherto been compromised. And, as it happens, rectified in the new Roland FP60, which now has the strength and depth of a console model. About time, too! The FP90 will no doubt exhibit this, and probably more, I haven't tried one yet.
So. In order to create this impression, there's a one step way of achieving this.
Grand Feel Compact!! YAAAAAAYY !! Bring it on, guys . . . .Oh, hang on; what will the price be?? With stand and triple pedal, £1550, no more. I'd buy it!

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Re: Yamaha P-515 portable digital piano [Re: peterws] #2749940
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Originally Posted by peterws
The ES8 has been with us some time now. A new one designed to make a good impression (ie, blow the rest out of the water) may well be in the offing, soon.
...
In order to create this impression, there's a one step way of achieving this. Grand Feel Compact!!


I agree, Peter. This would be a fitting response by Kawai and I hope it happens.

Re: Yamaha P-515 portable digital piano [Re: peterws] #2749958
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Originally Posted by peterws
The ES8 has been with us some time now. A new one designed to make a good impression (ie, blow the rest out of the water) may well be in the offing, soon.
Now, I tried one only a few days ago and the sound samples were good; each piano was distinct and well usable. The biggest let down, as with most portables is in the sound. It has hitherto been compromised. And, as it happens, rectified in the new Roland FP60, which now has the strength and depth of a console model. About time, too! The FP90 will no doubt exhibit this, and probably more, I haven't tried one yet.
So. In order to create this impression, there's a one step way of achieving this.
Grand Feel Compact!! YAAAAAAYY !! Bring it on, guys . . . .Oh, hang on; what will the price be?? With stand and triple pedal, £1550, no more. I'd buy it!

dang! poor yamaha!
two months before their new unit even hits the street, it’s already being blow out of the water by a kawai that hasn’t been announced! wink


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Re: Yamaha P-515 portable digital piano [Re: Jefsco] #2749986
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Originally Posted by peterws
The ES8 has been with us some time now. A new one designed to make a good impression (ie, blow the rest out of the water) may well be in the offing, soon.
Now, I tried one only a few days ago and the sound samples were good; each piano was distinct and well usable. The biggest let down, as with most portables is in the sound. It has hitherto been compromised. And, as it happens, rectified in the new Roland FP60, which now has the strength and depth of a console model. About time, too! The FP90 will no doubt exhibit this, and probably more, I haven't tried one yet.
So. In order to create this impression, there's a one step way of achieving this.
Grand Feel Compact!! YAAAAAAYY !! Bring it on, guys . . . .Oh, hang on; what will the price be?? With stand and triple pedal, £1550, no more. I'd buy it!

dang! poor yamaha!
two months before their new unit even hits the street, it’s already being blow out of the water by a kawai that hasn’t been announced! wink



Yamaha will be aware of this possibility anyway. So you can rest assured their response will be forthcoming depending on one thing. Like, sales of the P515 . . .that'll tell them all they need to know.


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Re: Yamaha P-515 portable digital piano [Re: CyberGene] #2750068
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Originally Posted by CyberGene
This is a good competitor to ES8 IMO.

As I recently reported the supposedly "better" action in CLP675 is a total disaster and that's confirmed by other people on the forum too. So, it's the right decision to stick to their proven NWX action which is on par with Kawai RH3.

I hope it survives shipping better than Kawai actions. wink

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Furthermore, I think the new CFX patch in the latest Yamaha pianos is better than the piano sounds of Kawai, even if only very slightly. Yamaha also have the best harpsichord IMO and some of their other sounds are very good. If the sound system is comparable to that in the ES8, then it's a good achievement. Modeling has proven ineffective so far, and I applaud Yamaha for sticking to sampling smile

I'm looking forward to testing it and comparing it to the ES8. On paper the wooden action, the CFX and the new 3-pedal stand sounds like a perfect match for what I'm looking for as a replacement for the ES100. Especially at that price level, now where the CA58 priced itself out of my market and the CA17 is not available anymore.


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Re: Yamaha P-515 portable digital piano [Re: AlexBltn] #2758619
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Kraft Music just posted a 38-minute presentation of the P-515 by Gabriel Aldort of Yamaha on YouTube. I guess they are getting ready for the first shipments next month.

Gabe is an engaging presenter, but I wish that demos showed more of the dynamic range of the instrument. It would be great if they played classical music, or even progressive rock, rather than only light jazz. I guess one can expect to learn only so much from demos, so I look forward to trying the P-515 in person.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRcR_ybOYxs

Re: Yamaha P-515 portable digital piano [Re: AlexBltn] #2761993
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received an email reply from yamaha today on when the p515 will start shipping.
they replied that the p515 black would start shipping late september, early october.

i imagine the available dates listed online at dealers takes into consideration presales, and estimates when units would be available for additional sales.


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Re: Yamaha P-515 portable digital piano [Re: AlexBltn] #2762428
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nice vid on the p515 i haven’t seen posted here.



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Re: Yamaha P-515 portable digital piano [Re: Bambers] #2762443
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Originally Posted by Bambers
Seems about time though, the P255 was a bit of a dinosaur and well overdue replacement.


Apparently somebody already started a discussion:
Yamaha p515 vs Roland FP90

Personally don't think the Yamaha P255 will be replaced by the P515. The lower keyboard model may be a dinosaur but it belongs to a different price range. Not everybody want to pay the price of a P515 because the sound is better. The P255 is for people who don't mind getting less features for a cheaper price. Even the P125 with a less than ideal piano sound would stay around as an entry level keyboard for people who are beginners.

I've been to several piano shops in my area and looks like the P515 isn't on display just yet. The few thing I know from what I've seen online include piano settings for CFX & Bösendorfer, adjustable hall settings (concert hall, church, auditorium sort of thing). Have to wait around for another month or two before able to test it in the store.

Re: Yamaha P-515 portable digital piano [Re: thepianoplayer416] #2762498
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Originally Posted by thepianoplayer416
Personally don't think the Yamaha P255 will be replaced by the P515. The lower keyboard model may be a dinosaur but it belongs to a different price range.

In Europe, ES8, FP-90, P-255 and P-515 are all in the same price range.


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Re: Yamaha P-515 portable digital piano [Re: AlexBltn] #2762513
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To be honest the piano sound isn’t to my taste. There’s some tin/metallic quality to the sound. I think the only current digital pianos with a piano sound I like are Nord and Kawai IMO.

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Re: Yamaha P-515 portable digital piano [Re: thepianoplayer416] #2762626
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Originally Posted by thepianoplayer416


Personally don't think the Yamaha P255 will be replaced by the P515.


What you think doesn't really matter, though. Yamaha already confirmed that it's replacing the P-255. https://youtu.be/R7vrAAagRUY (around 1 minute in)

Re: Yamaha P-515 portable digital piano [Re: Kougeru] #2762627
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Originally Posted by Kougeru

What you think doesn't really matter, though. Yamaha already confirmed that it's replacing the P-255. https://youtu.be/R7vrAAagRUY (around 1 minute in)


I have to say the introduction of the P-515 does leave quite a big gap in Yamaha's action lineup.

You have the P-45 and P-125 with GHS, which is arguably the lowest generally acceptable graded hammer action in a digital piano.

And then the next step up is...NWX, their highest tier action outside of the GrandTouch and hybrids.

I'd also love to see a (relatively) inexpensive GH/GH3 action between the P-125 and P-515, but Yamaha might consider that to be cannibalizing sales of the latter.


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Re: Yamaha P-515 portable digital piano [Re: Gombessa] #2762651
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The P-125 is listed at MSRP $999. The P-515 is MSRP $1999. Most places are listing them for $599 and $1499. There's definitely a spot open for a MSRP $1499 (real price of $999) piano that uses GH3X. But maybe Yamaha wants to push people to spend the extra money to go straight for the wood action. Bizarre to me, but I have a feeling this unit will sell well.

Re: Yamaha P-515 portable digital piano [Re: AlexBltn] #2762669
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Perhaps a successor of the P255 will add a 3 and/or an X to its GH.

But the P255 is already sold with a price to close to the P515 and may simply disappear.


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Re: Yamaha P-515 portable digital piano [Re: AlexBltn] #2763603
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just received an update from yamaha on when the p515 black will start shipping.

stated that it would start “toward the end of this month”, and that if you order one through a dealer now they can give you an exact date.


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Re: Yamaha P-515 portable digital piano [Re: Jefsco] #2763606
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Originally Posted by Jefsco

just received an update from yamaha on when the p515 black will start shipping.

stated that it would start “toward the end of this month”, and that if you order one through a dealer now they can give you an exact date.



So it seems one can get a P515 sooner through a conventional (brick and mortar) dealer rather than buying online?

I was given an estimated shipping time of mid October (several online vendors); however, I was told by a few of them that I would need to pre-order now to have a chance at the October batch; otherwise, it could be a much longer waiting period.

Re: Yamaha P-515 portable digital piano [Re: AlexBltn] #2763608
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What's the hurry? Supposing everyone delayed by, say, a month. Nobody bought. What d'y'all think'd happen to the price?

It would suddenly become very nice. smile


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Re: Yamaha P-515 portable digital piano [Re: peterws] #2763687
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Originally Posted by peterws
What's the hurry? Supposing everyone delayed by, say, a month. Nobody bought. What d'y'all think'd happen to the price?

It would suddenly become very nice. smile


Lol, Yamaha...reduce prices ...only when stores want rid because Yamaha are bringing out a replacement.....

So yes, in 2030.


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Re: Yamaha P-515 portable digital piano [Re: AlexBltn] #2766237
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fyi....just received an email from sweetwater saying the p515 white was in stock and ready to ship.....looks like the presales already took care of the first shipment of black...


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Re: Yamaha P-515 portable digital piano [Re: Jefsco] #2766291
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Originally Posted by Jefsco

fyi....just received an email from sweetwater saying the p515 white was in stock and ready to ship.....looks like the presales already took care of the first shipment of black...



Don't they do a white ash version? Or dark walnut for the discerning . . . .


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Re: Yamaha P-515 portable digital piano [Re: peterws] #2766296
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Originally Posted by peterws


Don't they do a white ash version? Or dark walnut for the discerning . . . .

...for a $1k upcharge they have a nice rosewood


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