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OT Watching Amadeus #2749134
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No work tomorrow, family is away, learning K545. Downloaded from Apple TV. When I watched it with my parents, decades ago, I didn't really like it but I was young and not into piano at the time. The reviews were great and now I'm obsessed with piano, so it's time to rewatch!


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Awesome movie. One of my all time favorites.


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A really fun and interesting movie. I love it (although historically it is way off-but who cares. The music is divine.)

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Thanks. I was thinking of asking in a thread about movies such as this. I’m not much of a movie watcher (a couple a year maybe) and I’d like to see some bio type films about piano.


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"Too many notes" (wait for it.......)


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"Which notes would you have me remove, your majesty?" That's the one line I remembered from years ago - in fact I just quoted it in the K545 thread a few days ago!


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Re: OT Watching Amadeus [Re: monkeeys] #2749158
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Originally Posted by monkeeys
Thanks. I was thinking of asking in a thread about movies such as this. I’m not much of a movie watcher (a couple a year maybe) and I’d like to see some bio type films about piano.


It's still not my favorite movie, although it is worth watching. There's a long thread about piano movies in the Pianist Corner - I can get you the link if you can't find it.


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Re: OT Watching Amadeus [Re: cmb13] #2749160
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Thank you cmb13. I’ll see if I can dig it up. I may load this one and watch it tomorrow while I’m avoiding the hot weather.


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For those who are interested, here is a link to an absolutely terrific BBC radio adaptation of Amadeus for solo actor performed by F. Murray Abraham, I found on YouTube a while ago:

https://youtu.be/ImOWkFev9lY

There is another version with multiple actors, again broadcasted by the BBC, which stars Simon Callow (he played Schikaneder in the movie version) as Mozart that is also interesting:

https://youtu.be/PLQBQmsTqbE


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I enjoyed Amadeus, even if there are inaccuracies it was still enjoyable and the music was fabulous. I also thought F.Murray Abraham really did an excellent job at portraying the anguish of Salieri at being "less" than Mozart .

I will definitely check out the links provided by deerfield! Thanks!


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It’s my favorite movie of all time.


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Originally Posted by cmb13
"Which notes would you have me remove, your majesty?"


Priceless. Love that film/play too.
Thanks for reminding me about it smile


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Originally Posted by deerfield
For those who are interested, here is a link to an absolutely terrific BBC radio adaptation of Amadeus for solo actor performed by F. Murray Abraham, I found on YouTube a while ago:

https://youtu.be/ImOWkFev9lY

There is another version with multiple actors, again broadcasted by the BBC, which stars Simon Callow (he played Schikaneder in the movie version) as Mozart that is also interesting:

https://youtu.be/PLQBQmsTqbE




Thanks for the links! I will be listening to these.

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I first watched the movie when it was released whilst on my travels through Europe - when I was in Amsterdam, in fact. I couldn't wait until I returned to the UK to watch it. Luckily, the movie wasn't dubbed into Dutch......

A few things struck me: after the movie, no-one budged from their seats and no-one made a noise, because Mozart's wistful K466 Romanze was playing (Ivan Moravec was the pianist) over the very long credits. Then the long applause at the end, when the credits were over, the music came to an end, and the lights came on thumb - probably for both the movie and the music. I'd never experienced such a response to any movie before.

Back in the UK, the response was the same even from the staid British audience (Sir Thomas Beecham: "The British may not like music, but they absolutely love the noise it makes"), when I watched it for the second time - without the subtitles in Dutch. wink .

Incidentally, the movie introduced me to the wonderful Stabat Mater of Pergolesi (which appears at the beginning of the movie):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AogRuKseGAA


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Even now, watching Homeland, in my house, F. Murray Abraham's character is referred to as Salieri.


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'Amadeus' is among my top 10 movies. So is 'Immortal Beloved', with Gary Oldman as Beethoven. Again, probably not historically accurate, but the music is sublime. The Moonlight Sonata scene is not to be missed.

Non-musical, but 'Shakespeare In Love' is another great movie if you're a fan of this type of storytelling. This one is in my top 3, along with Godfather 1 and 2.

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Watching Immortal Beloved tonight smile.


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Now that was a great movie!! I definitely preferred Immortal Beloved. What an ending. How tragic. I have no idea if it was even remotely accurate. Good story though.


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This is one of my favorite movies, too! Such a inspirational one!


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Thank you Deerfield for those links.


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Originally Posted by NobleHouse
A really fun and interesting movie. I love it (although historically it is way off-but who cares. The music is divine.)


I agree - the movie was very well done, but the music has always been divine - the immensity and sublimity of his output is enough to make even the most hardcore agnostic waver and begin wondering about "the hand of God"...


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Do not forget about the movie Shine. That is a terrific movie in my opinion.


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I remember liking "Amadeus" a lot when I saw it a while ago, need to rewatch it some time. Especially since I'm in Prague now, heading to Salzburg today for a few days. Yay!

As a Russian literature person, I also want to mention Pushkin's play "Mozart and Salieri," which supposedly inspired Shaffer's "Amadeus." Pushkin's play is very short (part of his "Little tragedies" cycle) and kind of minimalist but very powerful and can be of interest to you all, music lovers.

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Originally Posted by dumka1
heading to Salzburg today for a few days. Yay!

Sadly, you are going to miss the Salzburger Festspiele by just one week. Last year's edition was particularly nice.


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It's a great movie but the title is misleading. It should be "The Demons of Salieri". It's a point of view about Mozart but if we no nothing about him, we may suppose that he was mainly an opera composer.

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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop
Originally Posted by dumka1
heading to Salzburg today for a few days. Yay!

Sadly, you are going to miss the Salzburger Festspiele by just one week. Last year's edition was particularly nice.


Too bad, but we have to be back in the Czech Republic before the festival would start anyway. I'd never been to Salzburg before, so I'll be happy just to tour the city this time.

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Originally Posted by ThePawn
Do not forget about the movie Shine. That is a terrific movie in my opinion.


Shine is on my list of movies to see; thanks.


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Originally Posted by dumka1
I'd never been to Salzburg before, so I'll be happy just to tour the city this time.

Make a point of going up to the Festung Hohensalzburg, maybe by the cable car, and have lunch overlooking the town. It's a nice view to help with digestion.


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As a pre-teen, I watched Amadeus when it first came out in the movie theaters. I really enjoyed it.

Right before visiting Salzburg with the family, I decided to show this movie to my pre-teen daughters. I didn't realize that the video rental was a director's cut, slightly different from the one I saw. My daughters were upset after watching the movie because they fixated on the gory detail of the suicide attempt and also on the scene where [ SPOILER ALERT ] Mozart's wife was made to think she had to prostitute herself. They didn't like the movie.

Too bad. Such a different experience from what I had.


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Originally Posted by Tyrone Slothrop
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I'd never been to Salzburg before, so I'll be happy just to tour the city this time.

Make a point of going up to the Festung Hohensalzburg, maybe by the cable car, and have lunch overlooking the town. It's a nice view to help with digestion.


Reporting from the location. A breathtaking view indeed.

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PICS!!!


I tried but I have no idea how to post pictures here smile I opened Full Editor but it only gives a URL link option.

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Rented Shine this weekend - I actually liked Shine a lot. Great movie, good story, Not sure how accurate, based on what I've read, regarding the father's (negative) relationship with David, but I enjoyed the story regardless. Over the past 2 weeks, I've completed the trifecta:

Amadeus
Immortal Beloved
Shine


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