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Double glissando help (ravel’s del gracioso) #2746288
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Hi there! I’ve been picking away at alborada del gracioso this summer and have never played a piece with a double gliss - I was wondering if anybody had any advice for this tricky part. While my score recommends 42 going up and 31 going down, somebody recommended that I do both with 31, with the back of the thumb nail and the elbow popped out. I also don’t think I fully understand how one would use 42 - should I have a nail touching the key?

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Re: Double glissando help (ravel’s del gracioso) [Re: EFG] #2746297
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4-2 involves using both fingernails.

3-1 saves a fingernail. And you can always lubricate your thumb by licking it first..... wink


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Re: Double glissando help (ravel’s del gracioso) [Re: EFG] #2746337
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I did 2-4 up and 1-3 down on the fourths but I think I did 1-3 both way for the thirds. I remember spending a lot of time practicing the glisses just on the surface of the keys (without playing them) to get the feel/timing down and then slowing adding more weight to get them to sound.

HTH

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Originally Posted by bennevis
And you can always lubricate your thumb by licking it first..... wink


video of Vlado Perlmutter doing it or it didn't happen.

Re: Double glissando help (ravel’s del gracioso) [Re: DanS] #2746351
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This might be a super dumb question but I can’t for the life of me figure out how to make 2-4 work - like what angle is my hand supposed to be so my nails touch?

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Originally Posted by EFG
This might be a super dumb question but I can’t for the life of me figure out how to make 2-4 work - like what angle is my hand supposed to be so my nails touch?


https://youtu.be/wkrCGxNugow?t=5m15s

Not the best performance on YT, but it shows how to do 2-4.

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Re: Double glissando help (ravel’s del gracioso) [Re: EFG] #2750084
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4-2 up and 3-1 down works well on an instrument that has a light and easy touch, I think the instrument is vital in a work like this, in any work that is...


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