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Re: Piano search (and minor rant) [Re: NYSteve] #2744258
06/13/18 10:16 PM
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Yes. Today's C213 is essentially the same as the previous model K213. Check the brand profile in the Piano Buyer online for free, and we had a professor (who had never played a modern Schimmel before) review the new K219 and its related brethren in the review archives.


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Re: Piano search (and minor rant) [Re: NYSteve] #2744290
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Lest we not forget the classic Bösendorfer model 200, the former (and a personal favorite) Steingraeber 205...which later became the 212, the Seiler 203...which was replaced by the 208, the 208cm Grotrian Charis, the Yamaha C5x, even the Hailun 198 in the lower priced bracket. Honestly, I've sort of liked this size, because you can often end up with a full-sounding home/studio piano that isn't set up to be screaming loud out of the box. Of course, I'm being a little bit of a hypocrite, as I currently own a 7 footer.


Ha, ha. I had specifically the Bösendorfer 200, Yamaha S5X and Yamaha C5X in mind when I wrote notable exceptions. The old Steingraeber 205 I considered this a small B size, and the 212 for a modern B size, or C in Steingraeber terminology.

I think we can all agree that 200cm is a good size for many homes for various reasons. I happen to have a Kawai CA97 with the SK-5 sample. My children never liked the sample, and I only use it for certain moods. I always found it interesting, but can never get quite used to it. I imagine it rather different in real life though. I had this in my mind when the dealer shared his thoughts on the SK-5. It is still on my list of pianos to try though, but most likely this will only happen when I am abroad.

As for Schimmel, I remember reading the review of the new Konzert series. I recall the word ‘odd’ crossing my mind. I mean, here you have a professor of music, a very competent professional that in his own words only had tried a handful of piano brands throughout his career? How odd is that? Not so odd, sadly, as it turns out. It seems quite common to lack curiosity for the instrument itself in the academic profession when it comes to choosing pianos. It is not which piano, it is which Steinway. In an open bidding competition you can apparently read requirements like “The instrument should be relevant for what students encounter on most concert arenas”. So, one will get 97% score...

I have played 2 Schimmel K-219. The one I did not like at all, the other one was close to perfection. I was given an explenation for this, and apparently they are now more consistent than earlier years (2013+).

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Re: Piano search (and minor rant) [Re: NYSteve] #2744356
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I mean, here you have a professor of music, a very competent professional that in his own words only had tried a handful of piano brands throughout his career? How odd is that? Not so odd, sadly, as it turns out. It seems quite common to lack curiosity for the instrument itself in the academic profession when it comes to choosing pianos.


Sadly, that has been my experience as well.

Re: Piano search (and minor rant) [Re: Piano*Dad] #2744362
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I mean, here you have a professor of music, a very competent professional that in his own words only had tried a handful of piano brands throughout his career? How odd is that? Not so odd, sadly, as it turns out. It seems quite common to lack curiosity for the instrument itself in the academic profession when it comes to choosing pianos.


Sadly, that has been my experience as well.


Why are we assuming it is a 'lack of curiosity' and not a lack of availability? What brands are available for anyone to try as based on location..... with the smaller the area, the fewer choices.


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Re: Piano search (and minor rant) [Re: NYSteve] #2744375
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Lack of availability would normally increase curiosity in my mind. Now as far as I remember the University was in George Town, Texas. That would be less than three hours from both Dallas and Houston, which I am sure, must have 10 piano stores each given their size. The professor had also done concerts in Europe, and while not every city in Europe has a piano store, those who have concert venues of any size, do.

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