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recommendation of a video camera for recording the lessons? #2743540
06/10/18 09:08 PM
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Hello, this is a question for teachers as well as parents. Any recommendation for a video camera for the purpose of recording lessons? We have been recording for years, and find the video a great help for the kids' practice during the week. We have been using a Flip camera, but it's on its way out and we need something to replace it. So basically we need something that's small, can stand on a desktop or a music stand, can record continuously for at least one hour, with reasonable quality. And hopefully not too expensive. Thanks in advance.

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Re: recommendation of a video camera for recording the lessons? [Re: childofparadise2002] #2743565
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Do you really need video? Or audio only recording would be sufficient?

Zoom H1n is a good audio recorder. I have Zoom H5 which is basically H1n + audio interface for 2 extra XLR inputs. I always bring it with me and record my practice / performances. H1n is much smaller.

If I really need video, I use my cell phone for video and zoom for audio and later I combine video and zoom audio recording in my laptop via software.

Re: recommendation of a video camera for recording the lessons? [Re: childofparadise2002] #2743591
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I use my Zoom H2 most of the time, but that's just audio. Occasionally I use an iPhone for video.

But if you need video with decent audio quality, the Zoom Q series (Q2 through Q8 now) has a good reputation. Amazon carries a number of the models and you can check prices.


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Re: recommendation of a video camera for recording the lessons? [Re: childofparadise2002] #2743594
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I would use the iPhone or iPad. Then you can create a folder and save the lessons to watch later. The quality is good and it is convenient.

I make tons of video using the iPad.I have a $30 iPad stand. Here is one so you can see how it looks.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/4MqHqHwzEOo

Best wishes.


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Re: recommendation of a video camera for recording the lessons? [Re: childofparadise2002] #2743603
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I use an iPhone to video my disc golf drive, so I had to figure out how to attach it.

I have several tripods, they show up at thrift stores and yard sales for less than $5 USD. The attachment is a bolt, I think it's 1/4-20. The iPhone doesn't have that socket. But the clamp on a selfie stick does. I bought one at Walmart for about $3 and discarded the stick.


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Re: recommendation of a video camera for recording the lessons? [Re: childofparadise2002] #2743609
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Thanks, everyone! Indeed we are recording video so that the kids can watch instead of just listen. Sounds like we will need to only invest a stand for iPad/phone.

Re: recommendation of a video camera for recording the lessons? [Re: childofparadise2002] #2749214
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I use a cellphone to tripod adapter and an inexpensive tripod. As mentioned by "T", the clamp on a selfie stick can screw onto a tripod head. Amazon Basics has a good enough tripod for about $30.


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Re: recommendation of a video camera for recording the lessons? [Re: TimR] #2749350
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Originally Posted by TimR
I use my Zoom H2 most of the time, but that's just audio. Occasionally I use an iPhone for video.

But if you need video with decent audio quality, the Zoom Q series (Q2 through Q8 now) has a good reputation. Amazon carries a number of the models and you can check prices.


If you want good audio as well, the Zoom Q8 is one of the best.

Re: recommendation of a video camera for recording the lessons? [Re: childofparadise2002] #2749608
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Have you looked into something like the Google Pixel phone?
The benefit is that you do not have to store it on your device.
You could even set up "this week's lessons" folder for either the whole studio or individual and give parents access.


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Re: recommendation of a video camera for recording the lessons? [Re: childofparadise2002] #2749626
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I have a Zoom Q4n and I love it. It has a great audio quality with a decent video quality, for a fair price (imo).

I bought that as a gift from me to me for my 1-year piano birthday. laugh
I'm recording all my youtube videos with it since.

The camera is very light (surprisingly. The first time I took it in my hands, I was surprised a camera could weigh so little!), so it is probably easy to put it almost anywhere.
I personally bought a tripod for convenience.

But if an ipad audio quality is enough for your needs, then no need for a camera with good audio. smile


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Re: recommendation of a video camera for recording the lessons? [Re: childofparadise2002] #2750042
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I use my Ipad for just about everything. Including online lessons and recording lessons. Easy to airdrop video onto other mac devices or upload to a closed youtube channel.

You can even easily edit in iMovie if you feel the need. The sound quality is fine for teaching as well.

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Re: recommendation of a video camera for recording the lessons? [Re: childofparadise2002] #2757125
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What piano are you using?

You can also use a Logitech C920 and record video directly into the computer via USB. You can get an extension USB cable for the Webcam and film farther away.
For audio
* as they mentioned a Zoom H1/2/3/4/5/6
* or if the piano has internal recording you can record it directly onto a USB from the keyboard and sync it up to the video in post


ANOTHER OPTION
You could consider a software like Chordie for onscreen keyboard as you play on your keyboard (unless you use a real piano?) This example illustrates what a lot of teachers do online.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBG9fOVRcWc

Re: recommendation of a video camera for recording the lessons? [Re: pavane1] #2757780
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Originally Posted by pavane1
I would use the iPhone or iPad. Then you can create a folder and save the lessons to watch later. The quality is good and it is convenient.

I make tons of video using the iPad.I have a $30 iPad stand. Here is one so you can see how it looks.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/4MqHqHwzEOo

Best wishes.


I don't see the stand in your YT video, only you playing music. The music playing is good though.


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Re: recommendation of a video camera for recording the lessons? [Re: LearnEveryDay] #2757917
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Originally Posted by LearnEveryDay
Originally Posted by pavane1
I would use the iPhone or iPad. Then you can create a folder and save the lessons to watch later. The quality is good and it is convenient.

I make tons of video using the iPad.I have a $30 iPad stand. Here is one so you can see how it looks.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/4MqHqHwzEOo

Best wishes.


I don't see the stand in your YT video, only you playing music. The music playing is good though.


A thought: As a student, I want to see more than the hands a bit of the forearm. When I work with a teacher on-line, I get that same wish, and for the same reason. (In this case for the teacher seeing what I'm doing wrong; rather than the student seeing what the teacher is doing right. wink ) Our playing mechanism includes at least what we do from shoulder to fingertip, and how we sit, lean to left or right or move inward, also play a role. I started off in the way you're showing, as a student, at first.

I have a Logitech camera mounted on a stand at an angle that my teacher can see enough of me and what I'm doing. (similar to what Interstellar says). My piano is a digital hybrid. I have a mixer: sound feed coming from the piano into the mixer and sent to Logitech's program, so that we get the sound from the piano but the video from the camera. I use a mixer so that if I talk, it feeds in the same way. I found a clip-on XLR (lavalier type) microphone, so that I am free to move rather than trying to aim my voice at a mike.

Re: recommendation of a video camera for recording the lessons? [Re: childofparadise2002] #2769166
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I use an iPod nano which has a camera. Turn on and put atop piano. Restart for each new piece during lesson. When teacher demonstrates I stand to her right and video her hands. My playing gets no video. I can save parts I want of her demos to a computer for future reference. Works well.


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Re: recommendation of a video camera for recording the lessons? [Re: childofparadise2002] #2769626
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Rather than just video hands it would be good to video the entire body so you can check if your body and hands are flowing properly and the posture is good. I wish my earlier instructors had stressed the importance of this more.


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