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Would you consider using this while working on leg? #2742470
06/06/18 08:53 AM
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I have this horse, and I'm thinking about putting it under the piano where there is a leg I want to take off and get refinished. I understand that I will need to do the lifting (which won't be so hard as I can take out the keybed, etc.) I've seen the piano jacks, and I think that I prefer a horse.

https://www.lowes.com/pd/BURRO-BRAND-21-in-Wood-Saw-Horse-1000-lb/3347070

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Re: Would you consider using this while working on leg? [Re: swampwiz] #2742485
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I know it claims to support 1000 pounds but I wouldn’t trust it. It looks like it’s held together with staples.


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Re: Would you consider using this while working on leg? [Re: swampwiz] #2742496
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NO! Please don't do it!

Schaff piano supply makes a "piano horse " specifically for this purpose. Lowes is not going to reimburse you for your piano if you use that thing and it fails.

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Re: Would you consider using this while working on leg? [Re: swampwiz] #2742545
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I used one of these:

https://www.homedepot.com/p/ToughBu...Table-1300-lb-Capacity-TB-C650/206470852

But it's just the safety net. The piano was actually being held up by a bottle jack and a 3" square red oak bat blank with about a foot of oak 2x8 as a cap on top where it touches the piano. Keep in mind that it's really only supporting 1/3 of the weight. So on my piano, that's probably only a working load of 200-250lbs. So in my case that's probably overkill. smile

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Re: Would you consider using this while working on leg? [Re: swampwiz] #2742578
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It might be overkill but I prefer that to underkill, you know what I mean smile


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Re: Would you consider using this while working on leg? [Re: P W Grey] #2742604
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Originally Posted by John305
I know it claims to support 1000 pounds but I wouldn’t trust it. It looks like it’s held together with staples.

I could reinforce it with some proper wood screws.


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Re: Would you consider using this while working on leg? [Re: P W Grey] #2742608
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Originally Posted by P W Grey
NO! Please don't do it!

Schaff piano supply makes a "piano horse " specifically for this purpose. Lowes is not going to reimburse you for your piano if you use that thing and it fails.

Pwg

I did a search for "Schaff piano horse" and nothing came up.

However, I noticed this Grand Stand (at the bottom). It looks a bit dinkier than my horse, although it is metal, so it should be stronger.

http://www.premiermovingequipment.com/

Re: Would you consider using this while working on leg? [Re: swampwiz] #2742653
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Well, I do not see it in my Schaff catalog either. Maybe they quit making it. I have seen the Grand Stand before but never used it.

In retrospect, since the way you are going to use the sawhorse will only need to support about 250 lbs max, I guess it would be ok. My knee jerk reaction on seeing it was NO. If you get up on it and jump up and down and it doesn't collapse, then it will probably work.

Sorry to raise alarm bells.

Pwg


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Re: Would you consider using this while working on leg? [Re: swampwiz] #2742672
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It says "Load tested at 1,000-lbs." I wonder if it passed the test!
whome ha

It doesn't look that strong, but I suppose the cantilevered shape helps some. As others have noted, it'd probably hold up a corner.


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Re: Would you consider using this while working on leg? [Re: swampwiz] #2742717
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It probably will hold 1000 lb if properly loaded across its full length. But you wouldn't want to put that weight at either end or the middle. Also, would only trust it on a rough surface, not a smooth floor. On the other hand, how much does 1/3 of a piano weigh?


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Re: Would you consider using this while working on leg? [Re: swampwiz] #2742720
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From the description:

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All joints glued and machine stapled


I haven't seen it, but I'm with the skeptics. The cantilevered -- sloping legs -- design has probably been computer-modelled and tested, but my gut would be happier with this one:

https://www.lowes.com/pd/Stanley-FATMAX-2-125-in-Plastic-Adjustable-Saw-Horse-1450-lb/4753033


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Re: Would you consider using this while working on leg? [Re: swampwiz] #2742727
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I would be inclined to get something made for the purpose. It needs an upright, a foot and a top. Sort of like a capital I in a traditional font. A carpenter or a steel fabricator could do it very easily and it would be stronger than that horse.


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Re: Would you consider using this while working on leg? [Re: swampwiz] #2742730
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I have used a box that I made for moving pianos. It was about 9" wide, and had I made it for holding up a piano, I would have checked a few pianos' heights, and made it so it was perhaps half an inch shorter than a couple of the common heights. That is because the way I used it was to put the box in place, and when I lifted the piano up, I would shove some pieces of 2 by 6 between the box and the bottom of the piano. That makes it a one-man job. I cut handhold holes in the sides.

I got rid of it recently because I had made it out of particle board, which was way too heavy, and it was not quite the right size. I would make it out of good-quality plywood, 24" on one side, which would work with my pianos. I need to measure a few more pianos for the other side dimension.


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Re: Would you consider using this while working on leg? [Re: swampwiz] #2742760
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Originally Posted by swampwiz

I did a search for "Schaff piano horse" and nothing came up.

However, I noticed this Grand Stand (at the bottom). It looks a bit dinkier than my horse, although it is metal, so it should be stronger.

http://www.premiermovingequipment.com/


We have several stands and use them frequently (they are very similar to the pictured product). I recommend them highly.


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Re: Would you consider using this while working on leg? [Re: swampwiz] #2743225
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I had some saw horses like this and put a load of lumber on them. They worked fine for a while but they were out in my garage and in the summer, with the high heat, the legs started to bend and eventually collapsed. It gets hot in Middle Tennessee but not like Arizona or South Texas. Now, these saw horses held my lumber pile for a couple of years before they eventually failed - so it wasn't like they collapsed within minutes.


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