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Future themed recitals #2736999 05/15/18 11:33 PM
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Now that we had such success with the 50th recital (thanks again everyone!) I'd like to remind us about the upcoming themed recitals and discuss a couple of new ones. If I remember correctly, we have fixed the dates of two: The Debussy recital (June 2018) and the Bach recital (spring 2019). Have I forgotten something?

There was also some discussion about a Slavic recital and I was approached and asked to administer that one. October 2018 was mentioned. Do people think it is too soon? If there are no objections, that could be settled now.

Also I have a request of my own: I would really like to have a Nordic recital. There was already a Grieg one, but there is so much more or less known wonderful piano music composed in the Nordic countries (Norway, Denmark, Sweden, Iceland and Finland). And there's something for all levels. Obviously I would volunteer to administer this one. Could this be after Bach, maybe October 2019 so that it's not too crowded?

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I have also thought about the possibility of a Nordic recital, or maybe an ex-Grieg Nordic recital. I would definitely be interested.

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What do people think about a themed recital from music of the African diaspora or Asia. It would take some effort to get the word out about composers, but it would bring exposure to some new music.



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I don't often participate in the themed recitals because I can only manage so much at one time and the themes don't usually match what I'm working on. Planning ahead gives an opportunity to slide one in to my schedule so it isn't "extra".

I like the idea of the Nordic theme.

As for African or Asian music -even with the worthy motives presented by PianogrlNW, that wouldn't be for me.

I'd be interested in another GAS - Great American Songbook - there's so much there for all levels.


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Originally Posted by PianogrlNW
What do people think about a themed recital from music of the African diaspora or Asia. It would take some effort to get the word out about composers, but it would bring exposure to some new music.

Personally I am in favor of all recitals that expose us to new music, even if I won't be able to participate in all of them. Asian music would be interesting to look into. Since much of it is probably quite unknown, how about making it Asian/African/Middle East to widen the selection?

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The Debussy opens June 1st, and its "special", since this is the 100th anniversary of his death. The participation level will probably be modest, since he did not really write for beginners. But that's OK - we don't need for every recital to have 100 performers, or even 50. I will be thrilled with whatever participation level we get.

One type of music that has not had a themed recital is the "Einaudi" group. I'm surprised, since his fans are quite passionate about his music. But somebody (not me) would have to step forward and volunteer to organize it.

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A Nordic themed recital would be fantastic. I'm already learning a Sibelius piece at the moment.


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Originally Posted by Sam S
The Debussy opens June 1st, and its "special", since this is the 100th anniversary of his death. The participation level will probably be modest, since he did not really write for beginners. But that's OK - we don't need for every recital to have 100 performers, or even 50. I will be thrilled with whatever participation level we get.

One type of music that has not had a themed recital is the "Einaudi" group. I'm surprised, since his fans are quite passionate about his music. But somebody (not me) would have to step forward and volunteer to organize it.

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Personally I consider the quarterly recitals to be "Einaudi" recitals. All the other pieces are just extras. laugh

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Originally Posted by Monica K.

Personally I consider the quarterly recitals to be "Einaudi" recitals. All the other pieces are just extras. laugh


Spoken like a true Einaudian!

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I personally agree with Cheryl, I'm full and can't handle any more for now. I think 4 quarterly recitals and 1 themed recital are plenty.......but if you arrange it, I will listen!


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I love all of the suggestions thus far. Even if I don't have anything prepared to submit to some of them I think it will be a great opportunity to be exposed to new music and to hear others play.

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I just picked up this book Beyond the Romantic Spirit and it has inspired me to try something I don't have a lot of exposure to which is 20th+ century classical music. That could make for an interesting and varied recital.


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I just picked up this book Beyond the Romantic Spirit and it has inspired me to try something I don't have a lot of exposure to which is 20th+ century classical music. That could make for an interesting and varied recital.

I love 20th century classical! So that would be fine with me, I have many such pieces in my "almost polished" pile. Of course one can sneak these pieces into other recitals as well...

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So I suggest it's Slavic October 2018 and Nordic October 2019. The ones I will administer cannot be in June because I will be at my cabin with no fast and reliable internet connection. So June 2019 would be open for something else if wanted. I doubt anyone will have time to prepare more for the winter 2018-2019 because the quarterlies are in November and February and everyone will be busy drilling their Bach as well wink

Seems like a distant future but I suspect October 2019 will come sooner than expected, which always happen when I have music to prepare grin

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Originally Posted by Sam S

One type of music that has not had a themed recital is the "Einaudi" group. I'm surprised, since his fans are quite passionate about his music. But somebody (not me) would have to step forward and volunteer to organize it.



I'd have to skip that one. I don't have an elevator!
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I have an undeveloped idea (actually, I have a lot of those). Since we are the Adult Beginner Forum, and, we have lots of very new beginners in our ranks, what about a recital for beginner music. The possible benefits could be:

1. We would amass a huge collection of well performed, beginner music, which could be archived somehow as a permanent, easily accessible resource for the present and all future ABF members. My first thought is a sticky thread with an archive that can be indexed and searched by composer, title, and maybe even grade level. How many times have you suspected that the lack of beautiful music is at the heart of beginner cries of "I can't get motivated, or, I can't bring myself to practice". Such an archive would provide an easily accessible library of music for their consideration;

2. We would expand by many magnitudes the amount of composers of and collections of beginner music that is easily accessible to the present and future ABF members;

3. Given our 20mb file size limit, those of us ambitious enough could even record entire collections into one mp3 file. Or, just as easily, allowing multiple submissions would achieve the same effect;

4. Those of us who have favorite composers of beginner music, could share what we know with those who don't;

5. Those who might feel intimidated by some of the great submissions of our more accomplished members in the regular recitals would have less reason to feel so, given that we are all playing music of similar levels;

6. It would provide an opportunity for those of us who have received so much more from ABF than we have given an opportunity to make a valuable and lasting contribution to PianoWorld and its future members.

Suggestions to improve the above are desired and welcome.


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Originally Posted by Ralphiano
I have an undeveloped idea (actually, I have a lot of those). Since we are the Adult Beginner Forum, and, we have lots of very new beginners in our ranks, what about a recital for beginner music.

What a cool idea! But what level would beginner music be? Something I've learned from the Internet since I started learning 3 months ago is the grading system, and I wonder what grades are associated with "beginner"? Would it be RCM 1-4? Or something like that?


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I was actually going to suggest something similar. An RCM Prep B themed recital laugh I'm doing "Bouncing on my Bed in my Sexy PJs". I might even sing for you.


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I have an undeveloped idea (actually, I have a lot of those). Since we are the Adult Beginner Forum, and, we have lots of very new beginners in our ranks, what about a recital for beginner music. The possible benefits could be:

1. We would amass a huge collection of well performed, beginner music, which could be archived somehow as a permanent, easily accessible resource for the present and all future ABF members. My first thought is a sticky thread with an archive that can be indexed and searched by composer, title, and maybe even grade level. How many times have you suspected that the lack of beautiful music is at the heart of beginner cries of "I can't get motivated, or, I can't bring myself to practice". Such an archive would provide an easily accessible library of music for their consideration;



Ralph, have you seen the University of Iowa Piano Pedagogy Project on youtube? Not a very descriptive name, I know. The channel is called UIPianoPed. Over 3000 videos of beginner to intermediate piano pieces played by college professors. I think they have already done what you are describing better than we can do it...

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I have an undeveloped idea (actually, I have a lot of those). Since we are the Adult Beginner Forum, and, we have lots of very new beginners in our ranks, what about a recital for beginner music. The possible benefits could be:

1. We would amass a huge collection of well performed, beginner music, which could be archived somehow as a permanent, easily accessible resource for the present and all future ABF members. My first thought is a sticky thread with an archive that can be indexed and searched by composer, title, and maybe even grade level. How many times have you suspected that the lack of beautiful music is at the heart of beginner cries of "I can't get motivated, or, I can't bring myself to practice". Such an archive would provide an easily accessible library of music for their consideration;



Ralph, have you seen the University of Iowa Piano Pedagogy Project on youtube? Not a very descriptive name, I know. The channel is called UIPianoPed. Over 3000 videos of beginner to intermediate piano pieces played by college professors. I think they have already done what you are describing better than we can do it...

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Yes, I have used the U. Iowa P.P.P. extensively and have found it very helpful. I think what motivated me to raise this possibility was the frequency with which I hear or stumble onto composers and compositions that are not covered there. And, some of the composers they cover are not covered extensively. For example, my favorite, Alexandre Tansman has only two of his collections covered there. But, he has 6 or 8 more that are not covered. You are correct in that this effort would be partially redundant with the U.IowaP.P.P. effort.

I did notice, last week, when I went to U.IowaP.P.P., that they have continued to build their library of recordings, which might increase the redundancy over time. That is an incredible project.


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