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KAwai VPC 1 as lower keybed #2736702
05/15/18 02:00 AM
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Is anyone using the Kawai VPC1 in a live setup?

i want to place a 13kg Yamaha Genos directly on top of it.
with the Yamaha key hanging just a little over (less then an inch) the kawai keys..
at a slight angle..(about 10 degrees) to make the screen more visible.

Will the VPC 1 hold this weight?
I am concerned about the somewhat round top of the VPC1

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Re: KAwai VPC 1 as lower keybed [Re: Bachus] #2736710
05/15/18 02:36 AM
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Bachus,

The VPC1's slightly rounded top should not be a problem for the vast majority of slab-type boards that have rubber feet.

However, personally, I would recommend placing the Genos on a second tier/stacker, rather than directly on top of the VPC1. The VPC1 should be able to support the weight, but there's a strong risk that you may damage/scratch the paintwork.

Kind regards,
James
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Re: KAwai VPC 1 as lower keybed [Re: Bachus] #2736759
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I second what James said. Plus with a 2nd tier, you can have it at an angle to make it easier to play, adjust the height, etc. and not run the risk of hitting the Yamaha as you're trying to play the Kawai.


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Re: KAwai VPC 1 as lower keybed [Re: Kawai James] #2736766
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Originally Posted by Kawai James
Bachus,

The VPC1's slightly rounded top should not be a problem for the vast majority of slab-type boards that have rubber feet.

However, personally, I would recommend placing the Genos on a second tier/stacker, rather than directly on top of the VPC1. The VPC1 should be able to support the weight, but there's a strong risk that you may damage/scratch the paintwork.

Kind regards,
James
x

Originally Posted by Kawai James
Bachus,

The VPC1's slightly rounded top should not be a problem for the vast majority of slab-type boards that have rubber feet.

However, personally, I would recommend placing the Genos on a second tier/stacker, rather than directly on top of the VPC1. The VPC1 should be able to support the weight, but there's a strong risk that you may damage/scratch the paintwork.

Kind regards,
James
x


Thanks James...

But i am moving to the VPC1, because i just don’t like having the 2nd keyboard on a stacker...
And with my organ background prefer both keybeds just above eachother...
For me that is so much more relaxed playing, then having to reach far out for the upper key..

I been thinking about it, i am considering to let a colleague build a custom stand that holds the genos in place on the upper side
And has a framework of 3 metal bands following the contours of the top of the VPC1
With a stand on top of that, leaning on the frontsize of the framework, and with small collumns in the back, all build of light metal.
To prevent scratching of the vpc1 i will be using armaflex glued to the lower side of the framework.

This is my main reason for Moving from Kronos to VPC1 (with the action being a close 2nd)
Having both keybeds just above eachother.. with my macbook on the right topside
Comtrolling my mainstage setup and vst’s and reading sheetmusic..
The Genos will be for my backings and controlling organ and synth sounds..

Re: KAwai VPC 1 as lower keybed [Re: Bachus] #2736819
05/15/18 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Bachus

I been thinking about it, i am considering to let a colleague build a custom stand that holds the genos in place on the upper side
And has a framework of 3 metal bands following the contours of the top of the VPC1
With a stand on top of that, leaning on the frontsize of the framework, and with small collumns in the back, all build of light metal.
To prevent scratching of the vpc1 i will be using armaflex glued to the lower side of the framework.

This is *exactly* what I'm looking for. If your colleague wants to take pictures of the final product and offer the finished product for sale, I'm quite sure there would be an interest.

Re: KAwai VPC 1 as lower keybed [Re: Bachus] #2736830
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Might be a good idea to use the VPC 1's curved top; you can adjust the angle of tilt by moving the upper keyboard back or forth; maybe that's why they made it curved. The rubber feet should suffice for stability and well, the paintwork shouldn't be too badly affected. . . .


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Re: KAwai VPC 1 as lower keybed [Re: peterws] #2737003
05/15/18 11:58 PM
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Originally Posted by peterws
Might be a good idea to use the VPC 1's curved top; you can adjust the angle of tilt by moving the upper keyboard back or forth; maybe that's why they made it curved. The rubber feet should suffice for stability and well, the paintwork shouldn't be too badly affected. . . .


The Yamaha is 45cm wide
The top of teh VPC1 is only 24cm

sadly this will not fit..


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