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There is just one problem that I don't know how to save or if the 645 can save my customized settings. So I need to change them every time I turn it on.
Under System/Voice/Voice edit/, I increase the Touch sensitive to 75 and it's a pleasure to play. Note that there are 2 places to change the Touch sensitive. One you change from soft to hard (default = medium, I use Hard 2), and another place where you change some number (default = 65) and I change to 75. - Navigate to the system menu - Scroll down to backup - Choose backup setting - Turn the voice option to "on" The settings should now be saved, even after power off. 
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I didn't honestly think either were a massive improvement over the YDP163. I thought the CLP645 felt like a marginal improvement, but not enough to warrant the price difference or changing pianos. My feelings exactly! A couple months ago I was seriously thinking about upgrading from my Yamaha P105 (GHS action) to the CLP645. The reviews I read were all very favourable and yet... I wasn't 100% convinced that it was enough of an improvement to warrant spending $3300 (CDN). Plus, the salesmen was discouraging me from purchasing it and was instead urging me to go for a Yamaha N1 (or even the Casio GP-500)
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Plus, the salesmen was discouraging me from purchasing it and was instead urging me to go for a Yamaha N1 (or even the Casio GP-500)
Wow, P-105 straight to a hybrid! It took me 3 upgrade cycles to get that far! 
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I decided not to get any of them. I now think that the Kawai range is the way to go. Similar price to the 675 is the Kawai CA range.
I would probably get the CA98 right now (which is equivalent to the 685 price wise). The CA78 is probably around 675 money. Either would be preferable to the Yamaha.
In my area, CA78 around $3300 , 675 around $2700 My range of prices: CA58/48 vs 645 Thank you
Jaime CLP-645 ![[Linked Image]](https://forum.pianoworld.com//gallery/42/medium/14092.png) ![[Linked Image]](https://forum.pianoworld.com//gallery/42/full/14134.png)
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Wow, P-105 straight to a hybrid! It took me 3 upgrade cycles to get that far! I was a bit disappointed with the salesman. Was hoping that he would've been enthusiastic about selling me the CLP 645. He told me "Sure, it's an upgrade from the P105 but you'll soon realize that you'll want to upgrade again if you're serious about your piano lessons." Didn't really believe him. I'm sure if I had gone for the 645 it would've lasted me 10 years.
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- Navigate to the system menu - Scroll down to backup - Choose backup setting - Turn the voice option to "on" The settings should now be saved, even after power off. Awesome! Thank you so much
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My feelings exactly! A couple months ago I was seriously thinking about upgrading from my Yamaha P105 (GHS action) to the CLP645. The reviews I read were all very favourable and yet... I wasn't 100% convinced that it was enough of an improvement to warrant spending $3300 (CDN).
Plus, the salesmen was discouraging me from purchasing it and was instead urging me to go for a Yamaha N1 (or even the Casio GP-500)
I actually upgraded from the P-105 to the CLP-645, and I must say I am very very happy with the decision I made. Now I even prefer to play on this CLP-645 more than my Pramberger JP208. About Casio, I tried the GP-300 and GP-500 a while ago, they are quite good but the touch weight is still too light in comparison to a good acoustic grand piano and somewhere in the treble section above C5, the sound suddenly gets louder.
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I actually upgraded from the P-105 to the CLP-645, and I must say I am very very happy with the decision I made. Now I even prefer to play on this CLP-645 more than my Pramberger JP208.
+1. An upgrade from a p105 to any higher tier action is very noticeable and I'm all worth it. I upgraded from a p105 to a CP50 (doesn't even have the natural wood or escapement of the 645) and it was a huge step up in action feel and quality (also sound). But once you make that leap, everything else starts getting a bit more incremental.
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https://www.reidys.com/blog/clp645-vs-clp675-yamaha-clavinova-what-is-the-difference-2011/Is worth reading, it does explain some difference between these models. I suppose it's these kinds of things that people would like to know when buying, as these are higher end digital pianos. I only know because I tried both pianos out in the shop last week and was curious to know the difference between them. CLP 675 benefits 1) 88 linear weight keys 2) Better speakers 3) Better sustain pedal The Grandtouch action is completely different to whatever is on the 645. The 675 keys felt very heavy too in comparison to anything else I tried in the shop. I am only a beginner so couldn't give a definitive reply, but I personally like that grandtouch feel, though by all accounts it is pointless in a digital?
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@Samuel - so what are your thoughts on the CLP645 after all this time you had it? It's always super valuable to listen to people who actually had the instrument for a while...I'm super curious!
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