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#2730840 04/22/18 11:10 AM
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Hello all. I’ve been practicing my sight reading speed in my away from piano time with inotetrainer iOS app. With treble and bass enabled I can’t get much faster than 50-60 notes correct per min. I’m wondering if a real sight reader can do this faster? What is your impression of this app?


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I don't know the app, so I can't comment specifically on it, but it sounds like the app is based on note recognition and speed of response. What are some of the details of this app?

"Good" sight-reading speed of music, on the other hand, depends upon the tempo of the piece and how close one can come to performance tempo while accurately sight-reading, doesn't it?

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Thanks for the response Bruce. The app displays one octave and a note on either a treble clef or bass with a 60 sec timer. It allows for different time amounts clefs and way to select the notes for custom setups. Definitely, timing, dynamics, chords, and the ability to read ahead are important and aren’t tested with this app, but my weak point of quick note recognition is. It’s only $.99. The person who wrote the app over 9 years ago didn’t keep it up to date, so it stopped working for a couple years, but now it is working again.


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This is not really a good way to learn to actually sight-read at the piano. It doesn't teach you to associate notes on a staff with physical positions on a keyboard.


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It’s all about feeling the intervals with you hands...I understand that, but at times I still find myself loosing track and need to look at what note I’m on, and that is when the quick note recognition is needed. While on a coffee break at work I can practice this as a way to feel like I’m not waisting my time. It feels like it helps some..better than reading the latest news. Do real sight readers find this kind of study complete rubbish? I’m just curious if they would be faster than a poor sight reader like me with this note sight reading app. If not, perhaps it’s not worth my time.


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The app tests note recognition. You're training yourself to name the note, a very useful skill, but it isn't directly applicable to sight-reading. If you're recognizing 50-60 notes per minute, you can probably move on to different exercises.

These are the apps I found useful for that note-to-key reading connection:
1. Note Trainer Pro by thoor software AB
2. Piano Maestro by Joy Tunes (similar to Piano Marvel)

Aimee Nolte just did a nice review of this new Ear Training app, like all apps, I'm sure there's a point of diminishing returns, but for now, it's taking up a lot of my free time away from the piano.



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I don't know how well this app would help with sight reading at the piano... I think I'd agree with Polyphonist here. This app might help your sight-singing, which is a good skill for any musician to have, particularly singers, who seem to be among the worst culprits of not doing that well. Also, I'm allowed to say that, since I am (sort of) a singer myself.

While I wouldn't immediately say this app is bad, I'd recommend that you find some repertoire at a level that you can sight read at the piano, and just sight read. Just do it consistently each day. You will get better over a long period of time. I was embarrassingly bad at sight-reading when I was in high school, and I am night-and-day different almost ten years later. Of course, I still have a long way to go, but I see the progress I have made by working at it consistently.

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Originally Posted by Polyphonist
This is not really a good way to learn to actually sight-read at the piano. It doesn't teach you to associate notes on a staff with physical positions on a keyboard.


Spot on. You need both parts to make the music so why pick it apart?

My answer is just do it. Make it a habit to sight read something nearly every day. Always practice your lessons first, however, then take up some sheet music and read it. Find something you like and read through it while attempting to keep the time and rhythm right as well as the tempo.

Take something that's at or just below your ability and read it and play it. Eventually you'll get better at it and the music will get more difficult eventually. Speed will take time, but try your best to be at tempo, but if you make mistakes keep going, which is the point of sight-reading. If you stop to fix stuff, you're not sight-reading and you're practicing or learning! smile If you find yourself not being able to read that piece at all, or there's no way to play anything close to tempo, you're playing something well beyond your ability.

I've been doing this since the mid 1970s (Gulp it's been that long), and it's been a great part of my music life.


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