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Re: Large tablet for piano [Re: newer player] #2730502
04/21/18 06:43 AM
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Originally Posted by newer player
New video & comments showing Onyx i-Ink (13.3" X 2) from HK. Gives good idea of form factor, screen quality, how to manage scores, features.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sS1ezBrQTRo

PadMu Music is Italian hardware partner of Onyx; they do some of the music software-bluetooth.

https://www.padformusician.com/en/


That padmu is really cool though!!!


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Re: Large tablet for piano [Re: Mark...] #2730512
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cmb13, are you in the group of people who play from the score (more or less exclusively) or are you in the group who plays, mostly, from memory and only uses the score to learn and practice a new piece? (Or maybe somewhere in between...)

I'm firmly in the former group and always play from the score, and as such, the tablet has one major advantage for me that simply blows away any paper sheets (well, not literally...): Hassle free page turns with a foot pedal. I see many more advantages to using a tablet with a proper software (easier management, searching filtering etc., easier editing, re-arranging, etc.) but I could live without all of those and be reasonably happy with paper sheets - except for those darn page turns. They annoy me so much, that I've essentially not played a single piece from paper since I restarted piano (with a tablet right away), except the pieces from the Christmas album I have. But those are so short that they don't have page turns. I've even bought high quality editions of music books (from a certain well respected German brand that is everything but cheap) and the first thing I did was to go to a copy shop and have the spines cut off, so that I could scan them.

I can see however, that for someone who is in the second group, page turns aren't an issue, so that advantage of a tablet wouldn't be as important.

Re: Large tablet for piano [Re: Mark...] #2730523
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That's a good point, Jobert, and in fact I did notice a page turn issue when playing my recital piece. However, my issue was that I can't get the next page to lie completely flat quickly. I do play mostly from the score, but most thus far of my pieces are short enough as to require no page turns, or maybe only one.

My system is scan, print on good paper, and place in sheet protectors in a 3 ring binder. I wonder what your thoughts are on the brightness / very black-white nature of the e-format. That bothers me a little - can you make it as if it's on yellowed or ecru paper? I posed this question on the Pianist Corner as well.


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Re: Large tablet for piano [Re: Mark...] #2730605
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cmb13, I'm using the MobileSheetsPro app (available for Android, Amazon Fire and Windows 10), which has four color tint options (I didn't even know that and looked it up when you asked): Original (untinted), sepia, grey and cool. Samples below:

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and then of course you can always also regulate the brightness of the tablet.

The gallery with the full size screenshots is here:
http://forum.pianoworld.com/ubbthreads.php/galleries/2730597.html

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Re: Large tablet for piano [Re: Mark...] #2730608
04/21/18 12:53 PM
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I didn't know that either, JoBert, thank you! I find it much easier to read when using the sepia setting.


I've started playing January 2017, Nothing is too easy is where I keep track of my progress.

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Re: Large tablet for piano [Re: JoBert] #2730903
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Originally Posted by JoBert
... I've even bought high quality editions of music books (from a certain well respected German brand that is everything but cheap) and the first thing I did was to go to a copy shop and have the spines cut off, so that I could scan them.


Just to say that one of those well respected German publishers that sell blue covered books has been gradually releasing their collection in electronic format. Easier than having the spines cut off :-)

Re: Large tablet for piano [Re: Mark...] #2730919
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Jobert, I like those colors....much easier on the eyes. Thanks.


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Re: Large tablet for piano [Re: Mark...] #2730923
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has been gradually releasing their collection in electronic format.


Are the files copy protected?

If the publisher only releases a copy protected pdf it's usually better to purchase the hard copy and scan it yourself.

It's more work but you get a file that's more generally useful since you can keep a back up copy and it won't disappear if someone other than you decides to remotely delete it from your device in the future.

Think it can't happen? Here's one example. A google search will find others if you're interested. Microsoft Plays For Sure is another. (And what an ironic name, too.)


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Re: Large tablet for piano [Re: FrankCox] #2730946
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Originally Posted by FrankCox
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has been gradually releasing their collection in electronic format.


Are the files copy protected?

If the publisher only releases a copy protected pdf it's usually better to purchase the hard copy and scan it yourself.

It's more work but you get a file that's more generally useful since you can keep a back up copy and it won't disappear if someone other than you decides to remotely delete it from your device in the future.

Think it can't happen? Here's one example. A google search will find others if you're interested. Microsoft Plays For Sure is another. (And what an ironic name, too.)


So true! It is much better to have both a Hard Copy as well as electronic ones. Electronic ones are easily deleted. Hard copies can only be burned by governments.... cursing


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Re: Large tablet for piano [Re: Mark...] #2730956
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Does anyone use ForScore connected to a large LED screen? I was thinking it might be cheaper than a 2nd tablet and it can show 2 very large pages at the same time.


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