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Re: USA Today piece on Steinway Spirio [Re: GC13] #2724870
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I've heard the Spirio and it feels like it can only get half out of what is capable from a Steinway.

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Very interesting to read that Spirio models now account for 30 percent of Steinway sales!

I was excited when the Spirio models first came out, but lost interest when I realized that they do not have recording capability. Silent play would also be nice.

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Originally Posted by Corvus
Very interesting to read that Spirio models now account for 30 percent of Steinway sales!

I was excited when the Spirio models first came out, but lost interest when I realized that they do not have recording capability. Silent play would also be nice.


Indeed - I suspect that the majority of those who buy this system can't play anyway, but want their PSO to be more than a piece of furniture.

Paul.

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Originally Posted by pyropaul
Originally Posted by Corvus
Very interesting to read that Spirio models now account for 30 percent of Steinway sales!

I was excited when the Spirio models first came out, but lost interest when I realized that they do not have recording capability. Silent play would also be nice.


Indeed - I suspect that the majority of those who buy this system can't play anyway, but want their PSO to be more than a piece of furniture.

Paul.


It would be nice to have Spiro to be able to hear other great players playing my piano. Since I'm the only one in the house who plays, I don't always get to enjoy it from the listening perspective. And I agree that recording capabilities would be nice. It would also be nice if it were available on more models -- only A and B I think currently. It would also be nice as an aftermarket option for older Steinways. But I bet it would carry a very hefty price tag.

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I just barely missed having to decide between Spirio and PianoDisc. I had been mulling PianoDisc for almost a year, and a month after I pulled the trigger on PianoDisc, Spirio comes out. [It wasn't clear at that time that Steinway wouldn't be allowing after-market installations.]

The owner of the local Steinway Gallery doing the installation asked me one simple question: do you like the ability to hear vocalists or other accompaniment on your player piano?

If you answer yes, you should get PianoDisc, since it has that capability. If you answer no, that is, all you want is the piano to play piano, then Spirio is the answer.

I said "yes," and he said to me, then you made the right decision.

Spirio is also almost double the cost of PianoDisc, although they do give you unlimited free access to Steinway's music library (and Steinway has a galaxy of Steinway Artists to pull from for future content).

I am glad for Steinway's success with Spirio. If it is helping their financials, then hopefully that will keep them around for a long time to come.

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So, dumb question, if the Spirio "for home" doesn't record, I assume there must be a version that does, where are those? Does Steinway only provide the recording versions of the pianos to certain performers? For their theoretical Billy Joel performance, does he have to use some different piano that he normally would tour with?


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Originally Posted by pyropaul
Originally Posted by Corvus
Very interesting to read that Spirio models now account for 30 percent of Steinway sales!

I was excited when the Spirio models first came out, but lost interest when I realized that they do not have recording capability. Silent play would also be nice.


Indeed - I suspect that the majority of those who buy this system can't play anyway, but want their PSO to be more than a piece of furniture.

Paul.
Steinways are far from PSOs.

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Originally Posted by pyropaul
Originally Posted by Corvus
Very interesting to read that Spirio models now account for 30 percent of Steinway sales!

I was excited when the Spirio models first came out, but lost interest when I realized that they do not have recording capability. Silent play would also be nice.


Indeed - I suspect that the majority of those who buy this system can't play anyway, but want their PSO to be more than a piece of furniture.

Paul.
Steinways are far from PSOs which refer to inexpensive and poor pianos bought mostly for their furniture appeal.

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Very interesting to read that Spirio models now account for 30 percent of Steinway sales!

I was excited when the Spirio models first came out, but lost interest when I realized that they do not have recording capability. Silent play would also be nice.


Indeed - I suspect that the majority of those who buy this system can't play anyway, but want their PSO to be more than a piece of furniture.

Paul.
Steinways are far from PSOs.

Strictly speaking, they are objects and
obviously piano shaped! wink ha



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Re: USA Today piece on Steinway Spirio [Re: pianoloverus] #2724926
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Very interesting to read that Spirio models now account for 30 percent of Steinway sales!

I was excited when the Spirio models first came out, but lost interest when I realized that they do not have recording capability. Silent play would also be nice.


Indeed - I suspect that the majority of those who buy this system can't play anyway, but want their PSO to be more than a piece of furniture.

Paul.
Steinways are far from PSOs which refer to inexpensive and poor pianos bought mostly for their furniture appeal.


I know and I used that term deliberately because there is a certain group of people that do buy a Steinway piano purely for the name and never actually play it. Disclaimer: I have a rebuilt 1887 Model A and play it everyday.

Paul.

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Funny, Steinway's CFO is named Steiner! wink



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To me, it's almost stupefying that the Spirio doesn't record! Even the cheapest plastic keyboards can record. The software is nearly ubiquitous now. They claim as one of its virtues that it "could even be used to teach people how to play," but what better use than to record yourself and see how it sounds afterwards? Or to send your performance file to a teacher for feedback?



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Also, they make the example using Billy Joel. Does he do instrumental stuff now? Or do you get the piano part to Piano Man, but not the man singing? confused



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Betting big on China! 80% of the world's pianos are sold there. So all the other countries in the world are dividing up only 20%.



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Sorry for all the posts. I was posting as I read through it. wink


The thing I don't get is why Steinway doesn't market their own RH control system.

confused It'd be almost a sure extra 2% or so in gross revenue.



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Originally Posted by pyropaul
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Very interesting to read that Spirio models now account for 30 percent of Steinway sales!

I was excited when the Spirio models first came out, but lost interest when I realized that they do not have recording capability. Silent play would also be nice.


Indeed - I suspect that the majority of those who buy this system can't play anyway, but want their PSO to be more than a piece of furniture.

Paul.
Steinways are far from PSOs which refer to inexpensive and poor pianos bought mostly for their furniture appeal.


I know and I used that term deliberately because there is a certain group of people that do buy a Steinway piano purely for the name and never actually play it.
There is nothing wrong with buying a piano purely for the prestige or furniture aspect alone.

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From the article...

"Paulson's personal love of the piano traces back to his formative years as a kid, when his piano-playing sisters begged his father for a Steinway. His family couldn't afford it at the time, but Paulson's father scraped together enough money to instead purchase a baby grand piano.

"But it wasn't a Steinway, and I remember my sister crying at that time โ€” and I realized how powerful the draw was for musicians to play on Steinway," Paulson, who could not be reached for comment for this story, said in a video interview posted by the company. "My viewpoint is you can't have too many Steinways."


Sorry, but the part about Paulson's sister annoyed me Such ingratitude. I seriously doubt that her musical development was significantly hampered by her lack of access to a Steinway piano. ha

Yes - you can have too many Steinways - along with the Steinway mystique, marketing hype and annual price increases. smile

But I agree with PL - there's nothing inherently wrong with buying a piano merely for the prestige or furniture aspect, if that's your thing. Certainly keeps the piano market healthy.


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Sorry for all the posts. I was posting as I read through it. wink


The thing I don't get is why Steinway doesn't market their own RH control system.

confused It'd be almost a sure extra 2% or so in gross revenue.


What is a "RH control system"?

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I remember what struck me the first time I read the Paulson quote was that he referred to his sisters as โ€œpiano playersโ€ instead of โ€œpianists.โ€



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