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Excuse the slight irony in my tone hag01, but I would like to know your level as a pianist.

Actually I already know it, since you've been active on a couple of threads. Of course, anyone is entitled to an opinion. All I'm saying is that somebody who doesn't follow the forum regularly has no knowledge of the level of the poster, and may give more weight to the opinion than is justified.

I think dissing an entire brand in such strong terms, even while stating that that's your personal opinion, is an exaggeration and some context must be given.

Nevermind.

No need to apologize, but there are a few semi-professional recordings of me playing classical pieces on a couple of piano websites. Of course, you'll need to know my real name first, which is

BTW, I make it a point not to earn any money from my playing, because I have a full-time job unrelated to music, and I don't want to deprive pianists who depend on performing for their living. If there's a paying job, it should go to them, not me, so I decline all such jobs.

So, I perform a (free) monthly recital for a mostly non-musical audience, for the joy of it and in a proselytizing role, to encourage people to enjoy classical music and maybe even take up (or restart) a musical instrument. I play only the music I like, and over the years, I have had some success in my self-appointed role. People - many of whom have never heard classical music played live before - ask me about the music I played, and how to get started or re-started on their long-forgotten musical instrument which had been gathering dust at home. At least I feel I'm spreading the word that classical music is for everyone, and making use of my hard-earned performance diploma.

BTW I don't own, and have never owned a V-Grand, though it's the closest digital to a real concert grand, as I discovered when I played on one in a concert hall in London. (Any donations from Roland gratefully received ).

I'm sorry, I have missed your post before editing, and I mean no disrespect, but my question still remained unanswered. I will be as presumptuous to answer it myself, in this case. Feel free to correct me.
First of all, the OP is a piano teacher, plays classical piano and I think that it's safe to assume that's at an advanced level.
Now, for your input that I felt the need to reply to: I noticed that you are a beginner, if I remember well, mostly self taught, and even very basic classical pieces are at this time very difficult for you.
Now, don't get me wrong, I believe that learning piano is amazing and your passion is absolutely great! You should keep at it and keep growing. I'm mostly self taught myself (intermediate-advanced at this point) and I truly appreciate this passion in any form it takes. So you have my utmost respect for that!
All I really wanted to say is that you're not yet on a level where you can really evaluate actions and piano behaviour in an objective (as much as it can be) manner, and much less so to counsel others on their piano of choice and dis an entire brand in such strong terms. It's like not being able to drive even around the block well enough, but saying some brand of cars is terrible and drives very poorly, and another is way better.
And when you give this reply to a person who put a hefty sum into a product and you maybe make them second-guess their decision, you may cause discontent without any valid basis whatsoever.
Sorry if I overstepped, but I believe that they're entitled to knowing this.

mcoll, I don't think anyone here need your help exposing who am I and what is my level.
I openly put a link to my YouTube channel in my profile, and I'm surprised you haven't noticed to that(is it so difficult to click on my profile?).
In my YouTube channel, you can hear rercordings of me play piano.
You also can see and hear me play guitar, which is my first instrument, and you also can hear my original compositions.
So all in all, a bit of research in my YouTube channel can give you a good hint about what kind of musician am I, and what is my level in the various things I do.

I'm not considering myself as an advanced pianist at all, but I play piano for a while now, and I am not a beginner.
I don't know how youv'e got to the conclusion that I'm slef thought, I learnt and still learn from a teacher regularly.

Now about Roland, firstly, I think their piano actions are generally good.
I just hate the PHA-50 because of my special phisical problem I have with it, which mentioned above.
I much much prefer PHA-40. actually, I played on a Roland RD-800 with the PHA-40 long time ago so I'm not sure how serious is what I remember from it, but I think that PHA-40 has very similar feeling specifically to my new vertical piano, more than to other acoustic pianos I played on for that matter.
Even Roland Ivory Feel G is really nice IMO.
Anyway, I still think that Kawai GF2 is better than anything by Roland.

But Roland is not just a piano actions factory.
Rolad keyboards have great acoustic piano sounds but IMO too many awful non acoustic piano sounds.
I really don't like their digital guitar amps.
I think Roland integra 7 should have been sold as a 50-100$ VST plugin like Korg have done with their M1 and Wavestation, because those sounds are extremely dated and sound like a joke in our VST area.
Having that said, I have one Roland product in my home that I really like, which is Roland CM-30 Cube Monitor. I use it mainly paired with my Line 6 Helix guitar amp modeler.

Well, this thread seemed to have gone sideways.

Anyway, I would just add as an owner of a Roland HP605 that to my ears modeled sound is synthetic or unrealistic; I'm much happier now using VI's (sampled). But what has been repeated frequently---- what does your ear like?

Hi Leenie - hope you are still with us. At school I would play the Steinway grand virtually every day, and my own Rogers up at home, and numerous other pianos. So just to repeat what I said earlier, the LX7 is a splendid instrument, very good action and dynamic range and response. I think you should ignore Haq01's comments. Not really relevant.

“Well, this thread seemed to have gone sideways.”

I agree! The bushings on this one have gone loose. We need to bring in a good technician to tighten up them loose bushings.

Hag, maybe I exaggerated a little. I remember you posting the batman recording not so long ago and accusing I don't remember which dp because of the timing of the playing. Others suggested that the piano was not the reason for the timing problems (and I agreed with that). Maybe my memory tricked me, but that's what I based my reaction on.
I looked at your yt account now, I see recent recordings are significantly better timed. If those are actual recordings and aren't significantly edited, then I admit that I exaggerated.
As for the guitar, nice playing!

mcoll, I thought you are talking about that controversial thread.

So let me tell you that:
I regret about all of this.
I admit that my digital piano was not the fault of my timing problems.
And I even posted in this forum an apologize thread.

I never edit my recordings because that is cheating and I'm not a cheater, and that is why you could notice the timing problems in that batman recordings, because I didn't edit.
I'll tell you what was the real problem:
1. The smaller problem - Not good velocity curve in Pianoteq, made me struggle to control the sound, and therefore the whole playing was tougher.
2. The main problem:
Trying to nail a piece without sitting enough time and practice it and prepare it patiently.
I simply was frustrated and lost my patient and took it out on my digital piano.
And I'm truely sorry about that and appologize, and I think it was really stupid and despicable.

The recordings that you heard in my YouTube channels, each of those pieces, I worked hard and patiently on them before the recording.
But now after I didn't played them for a while I can not nail them like this again.
If I want to nail those pieces again I have to start over practice them again.

And I think that leads me to the core of why I opened that notorious thread, bashing digital pianos; Here a recording of me playing this batman arrangement few years ago:
https://youtu.be/TwaRlDykdr8
I worked really hard on this arrangement before this recording.
After that recording I didn't played that for a long time, and then I returned to it and couldn't nail it immediately, it wasn't as difficult as in the first time, but still I had to do some patient practicing.

Another thing is that I think the best thing I can do for my pianistics is to improve my coordination, and my teacher give me now good materials for that.
Improved coordination will help me to learn pieces faster, and play them faster.

I'm sorry for the deviation from the original subject of this thread, just wanted clarify my true opinion after the controversy I created in this forum few month ago.

In conclusion it was misjudgement on my part. The Cm prelude from wtc 1 really takes some working to be played like that. My apologies

+1

Leenie, you won't regret buying the LX7. It will serve you well for many years.

I don't see the point of you guys, owners of Roland fully modeled pianos, being offended by my personal opinion about modeled pianos. The OP is apparently not satisfied with his LX7 compared to a sampled piano. He hasn't shared in details what he found lacking compared to that sampled piano, so to an extent I put words in his mouth. But let's face it, if one is complaining about modeled piano sound compared to sampled piano sound what could that be? How many different complaints have you heard? Are we counting all the various words? It's apparent that when one doesn't like modeled sound it's the typical modeled sound character. You can call it synthetic, metallic, unrealistic or whatever but it's basically one and same deficiency of the modeled nature. I stand behind my advice. If one feels dissatisfied with his piano at such an early stage of ownership he better replaces it with what he likes better. Bringing up some philosophical theses about consumer society trends is not helpful. This is his first digital instrument, he hasn't read the forums prior to feeling the instrument is not satisfactory so he hasn't been influenced by me or other guys who upgraded their digitals from time to time (as if that's bad...). As a matter of fact, he is presumably an advanced classical pianist who is buying his first digital instrument and discovers that he's not satisfied with LX7 and feels CA78 is better. And you come here arguing his preference

I suspect we may have lost Leenie. Might have been better to stick to the subject.

We lost Leenie! Why god, why?

Made one post, and that was the last time they logged on - not come back to see any replies

I, personally, am not offended by someone else's opinion. We each like what we like. However, please remember that we live in an age in which people seem to feel entitled the right to be offended by most anything these days. It has reached a level of silliness that will hopefully become obvious enough to most so that the pendulum starts to swing back to a more reasonable position.

Tony

Maybe they have email notifications set for when the thread updates?

After the third or fourth "modelling/sampling is better than sampling/modelling" post they would surely have disabled those, no?