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Notation software - found! #2719990
03/09/18 08:49 AM
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It's called "FLAT" and it's an app on Chromebook; one f the few that seem to work. Simpler and more intuitive, for those who're interested, here it is.

https://chrome.google.com/webstore/...cg?utm_source=chrome-app-launcher-search

The reason it's been posted here (and the Adult Beginners Forum) is that the Composer forum is stuffed full of people's compositions . . .and few are looking.


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Re: Notation software - found! [Re: peterws] #2720061
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There is a free software called Musecore, extremely powerfull and easy to use, if that's what your are searching for.

Re: Notation software - found! [Re: stamkorg] #2720091
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Musescore was the only programme that worked on my desktop. It isn't easy to get one's head around. . . for me at any rate. I was on the verge of giving up when I found this Chromebook app. It isn't free, but you can write out fifteen scores for free. But it's easy and much better imo.


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Re: Notation software - found! [Re: peterws] #2720893
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I wonder if anyone else is interested in compiling textual description into music sheets / midi / musicXML. I hope I am not only the old-fashioned guy who prefers a documented language over a WYSIWYG editor...

Long ago (before musicXML was really available with lots of software) I have started to use Mup (Music Publisher). As the format is awful to type in, I invented an own LALR(1) language for music notation. That way I could achieve vectorgraphical postscript output (I know how to convert to vectorgraphical PDF now) and MIDI, without paying for extremely expensive music notation software more than a decade ago...
Now I am working on translating to abc notation software, which can be converted to musicxml, for the most common notations at least (texts and symbols above/below staves are missing at the moment).
After this is done, I will consider translating either musicXML to my LALR(1) language directly, or perhaps indirectly (the current candidate for indirect translation is Lilypond as it has also LALR(1) syntax).

Is there anyone interested to join? Private messages are also welcome.


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Re: Notation software - found! [Re: peterws] #2720903
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Noteflight.com is pretty good. Not completely free either, but you can put together up to 10 compositions.


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Re: Notation software - found! [Re: peterws] #2720905
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Originally Posted by Jasper E.
I wonder if anyone else is interested in compiling textual description into music sheets / midi / musicXML. I hope I am not only the old-fashioned guy who prefers a documented language over a WYSIWYG editor...



I think Lilypond is the software for that today - in particular the Mutopia project uses it as the formal language for their scores. From a brief look at it, it seems a bit like Latex - which is the defacto format for writing scientific papers. So not sure of the two are related.

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Re: Notation software - found! [Re: akc42] #2720924
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Here's my first effort with "Flat" web based notation programme. It should play "SuperMario" style when you depress the space bar. And stop when you do the same . . . .It was fun doin' it, but I,ve still a few things to learn. Without instructions I hope; I don't think there are any . . . .

https://flat.io/score/5aa136efbb0c80329207c142-broken-elevator


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Nice job Pete!


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Re: Notation software - found! [Re: akc42] #2721061
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Originally Posted by akc42
So not sure of the two are related.


Lilypond share the same approach and some choices (curly braces :  { ... } and antislash : \), but the development is quite different : TeX is built in “Web”, i.e. a Pascal derived language designed to embed the source documentation. It can be translated to TeX (documented source with cross references), and to Pascal or C language. Lilypond is mainly developed in Scheme.

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Re: Notation software - found! [Re: peterws] #2721115
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Broken Elevator is lovely. It's on the verge of being a great piece, but then it goes off the rails a bit with those alternating note patterns near the end.

It would be well served by having an actual pianist.

By the way, why the transatlantic concession? Shouldn't it be a lift? Or did you envisage a panic in Detroit, as it were?


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Re: Notation software - found! [Re: toddy] #2721211
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Originally Posted by toddy
Broken Elevator is lovely. It's on the verge of being a great piece, but then it goes off the rails a bit with those alternating note patterns near the end.

It would be well served by having an actual pianist.

By the way, why the transatlantic concession? Shouldn't it be a lift? Or did you envisage a panic in Detroit, as it were?


I rewrote the end bits before I read this . . . it's a bit tidier now, but not as I play it. I have several similar pieces with variations which I fondly call "Elevator Music", it's experimental but fun to play around with. "Lift Music" doesn't sound right.
My granddaughters quite liked it . . . .


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It's a really nice piece, anyway. Oblique and lightly worn intelligence in motion. Granddaughters should be proud.

I see what you mean about 'elevator' - it's a much better word and cocks a snook at Musaque.

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Re: Notation software - found! [Re: akc42] #2721400
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Well... as far as I understand one of the first original intents for Lilypond was to produce PostScript and/or Encapsulated PostScript music sheets which can be included in TeX documents.
Hence the syntax is pretty similar, too smile


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Re: Notation software - found! [Re: peterws] #2721402
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There is an history here : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LilyPond#History we can see that it was a successor of MusiXTeX PreProcessor. This could explain some similarities.

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