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User-friendly, high-quality, self-recording systems? #2720710
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Is there any system (hardware, software, combo) that allows one EASILY to record one's own practicing with reasonably good audio fidelity (not necessarily to top audiophile standards)? It would be nice if it could also be used for recital recordings, etc., but right now I'm focused on recording practice sessions.

I have used a slightly older Roland handheld recorder for my recital recordings here, but it is NOT user-friendly, even on its own, and less still when sought to be used in conjunction with recording/editing software.

I know some people really geek out on recording systems, and God love 'em for that. I barely have time to practice, and I don't have time to wallow in recording technology.

Is there something that is to self-recording what the iPhone camera is to photography (or the Instamatic, for my fellow oldsters)?

Yes, I admit that I seek something that is "idiot proof." I'm not ashamed.

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Re: User-friendly, high-quality, self-recording systems? [Re: ClsscLib] #2720724
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I have a camcorder mounted on a tripod that sits to the right of me. The digital piano is connected to the mic input of the camcorder. When I want to record, I just turn it on.

I can understand not wanting to then mess around with files and software to tweak the recording. Takes too much time. I have to go through the process of eliminating noise from the audio file, and then after that convert it to a smaller file format using ffmpeg or Handbrake. Doesn't take too long, but if it was any longer I probably wouldn't go through the recording process. I should probably invest in a line loop, noise reducer, whatchamacallit.


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Re: User-friendly, high-quality, self-recording systems? [Re: ClsscLib] #2720737
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The Zoom hand-held recorders are idiot proof and produce high quality recordings once you have the proper settings. No need for an external mic. To check in on how I am progressing with a piece I use my Roland digital that records a midi file on a thumb drive.



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For audio, Pianoteq is unbeatable. It records everything you play; you then can play the recording back through all the instruments available to you, plus your own digital through the MIDI file generated.
All you concern yourself with is the visuals.


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Re: User-friendly, high-quality, self-recording systems? [Re: ClsscLib] #2720747
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I bought one these over a year ago. I've been happy with it and its UI isn't too difficult for basic recording. The extra benefit over the Zoom is that it has a playback feature which sounds fine with earbuds (it does have a little speaker too).

Olympus LS-P4

Pianoteq is great too but I'm assuming the OP is recording an acoustic piano? If you are using a digital piano the yes Pianoteq is even easier because it is always recording your playing by default.


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Re: User-friendly, high-quality, self-recording systems? [Re: peterws] #2720759
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Originally Posted by peterws
For audio, Pianoteq is unbeatable. It records everything you play; you then can play the recording back through all the instruments available to you, plus your own digital through the MIDI file generated.
All you concern yourself with is the visuals.


I do almost all my playing on an acoustic piano, so for me that won't work -- though if I played digitals more I'd certainly explore Pianoteq.

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Re: User-friendly, high-quality, self-recording systems? [Re: ClsscLib] #2720764
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Perhaps this is too basic for you but we use Music Memos on the iPhone and I'm happy with the quality.


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Re: User-friendly, high-quality, self-recording systems? [Re: ClsscLib] #2720769
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pianoMom2006, NOTHING could be too basic for me, thanks! There is a village out there that misses me badly. smile

I note from the App store that there are a fair number of iPhone recording apps available besides Music Memos. Does anyone have a recommendation (or a caution) regarding those?


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Re: User-friendly, high-quality, self-recording systems? [Re: ClsscLib] #2720772
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I am using a combination of two mics, a usb pre-amp and a custom linux distro made for audio and video recording/editing.

It may not be as easy as other options but I didn't find it too difficult, the linux distro makes it especially easy by bundling all software and drivers you need.

I also had a windows setup with a cheap DAW before (reaper, about 60$) which was also working well but I wanted to cut the windows overhead and get something dedicated to recording.

Let me know if that can be of interest to you and I can tell you more.

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This, by Roland, was specifically designed for use by non-tech music teachers and students. It is a bit expensive, but it does everything from recording to burning a CD if you so desire at some point. It has built in speakers that play loud enough so you don't even have to connect headphones to hear what you recorded. It is well built, glitch-free, and would last a very long time:

https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/CD2Urec--roland-cd-2u

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Re: User-friendly, high-quality, self-recording systems? [Re: Vid] #2720795
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Originally Posted by Vid
I bought one these over a year ago. I've been happy with it and its UI isn't too difficult for basic recording. The extra benefit over the Zoom is that it has a playback feature which sounds fine with earbuds (it does have a little speaker too).

Olympus LS-P4

Pianoteq is great too but I'm assuming the OP is recording an acoustic piano? If you are using a digital piano the yes Pianoteq is even easier because it is always recording your playing by default.


I do not understand your comment about the LS-P4 having an extra benefit over a Zoom as it (the LS-P4) has a playback feature which sounds fine with earbuds?

My Zoom H4n sounds fine with earbuds, headphones or output to an amplifier.

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Re: User-friendly, high-quality, self-recording systems? [Re: ClsscLib] #2720811
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A Sony A6000 camera with a video record button on a tripod. When I want just the audio I'd open the video in Quick Time player and export as Audio. The sound isn't too bad.

Re: User-friendly, high-quality, self-recording systems? [Re: Micael K.] #2720822
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Originally Posted by Micael K.
I am using a combination of two mics, a usb pre-amp and a custom linux distro made for audio and video recording/editing.

It may not be as easy as other options but I didn't find it too difficult, the linux distro makes it especially easy by bundling all software and drivers you need.

I also had a windows setup with a cheap DAW before (reaper, about 60$) which was also working well but I wanted to cut the windows overhead and get something dedicated to recording.

Let me know if that can be of interest to you and I can tell you more.


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Like many others, I use only my Zoom H4n, and only need to know how to use the 'stop' and 'record' buttons, which is great for a technophobe like me (I don't even own a cell phone, nor do I know how to use one).

Though I did have to learn how to use the scroll dial to access specific recordings if I wanted to listen to them using my earphones plugged into it. But I'm more likely to plug in my hi-fi, using the same headphone socket on the Zoom. It does have its own speaker, if you prefer to hear your recordings through that.

I got very advanced when I worked out that I could actually control its recording level myself too, if I wanted to......


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Originally Posted by ClsscLib

This is Greek, right? smile


A little more involved than all-in-one devices but you also asked about high quality and software/hardware combo and I think it's not that hard getting started.

Recording is basically just one click once you have the software (usb really helps) some softwares more user friendly than others.

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Someone on a similar thread said the Zoom Q8 Handy Video Recorder is really good. The audio is outstanding too.

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Originally Posted by ClsscLib
Originally Posted by peterws
For audio, Pianoteq is unbeatable. It records everything you play; you then can play the recording back through all the instruments available to you, plus your own digital through the MIDI file generated.
All you concern yourself with is the visuals.


I do almost all my playing on an acoustic piano, so for me that won't work -- though if I played digitals more I'd certainly explore Pianoteq.


Never thought o' that. Suddenly your posting makes more sense. . crazy .

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No worries, mate. Some good ideas here -- including your Pianoteq suggestion!


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Well, the Zoom H4N is supposed to be easy to use, and usually I have no problem. But I managed to screw it up anyway for the last quarterly recital. There's a button right on front that changes between the built-in microphones or external mics. Guess what gets recorded when you accidentally press the external mics button and you have no external mics - perfect silence. So even the simplest recorder can be screwed up by operator error...

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The Roland CD-2U that I mentioned in a previous post is completely self-contained, with built in mics, built in speakers with plenty of amplification so you don't need to connect earphones to hear your recording. it is all in one place, and very easy to use. It is also built quality to last a long time. If you decide to burn a CD, just insert a CD and a couple of easy button presses, and it is done. No need to transfer files to a computer, it is all built in. some people like to make a CD to send to family and friends at Christmas time, for example. Hassle-free with this device.

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The nice thing about Music Memos is it's a free app so if you don't like it you can just uninstall it later. It's literally a button click to record. The disadvantage of the app is that the music takes up a ton of space on your phone so you'll have to move it quite frequently to another device. I have an iPhone 7 and I can maybe record 30 minutes before the phone starts to have memory issues.


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