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Re: Are you surprised at the type (genre) of music you play?
mr_super-hunky #2720492 03/11/18 09:44 AM
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Fascinating thread!

I don't listen to much music, though I do like Bach and Heavy Metal of the 60s and 70s, and I cannot stand listening to what I call cocktail music (the stuff they play in hotels, bars, cruise ships etc), jazz, blues and most other music that's not Bach or Heavy Metal.

But then when I try out a few bars of blues, jazz, whatever on the piano (very badly, I may add), it's surprisingly fun to do and I can play for hours.

As several ppl have indicated above, it's totally different when it's you that's doing the playing smile


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I listen to a lot of music, in my car, in my bed, when I'm cooking. My head is full of song and this is what I want to play on the piano. So it's mostly popular song with a little bit of classical, jazz and blues.

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Yes, I must admit that before I started playing piano my knowledge of classical music was rather limited. I always liked Bach but I only discovered many of the other composers when I started exploring piano music. At the same time what I used to like seems rather boring now. I'd much rather play a classical piece with interesting harmonies and interplay between voices than some pop melody that repeats over and over with nothing more than a simple LH accompaniment.

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Count me among the "it is different when you play it" crowd. All my life I have listened to rock but I have to admit playing the easy beginner classical pieces in the Faber books is a lot of fun. My teacher gives me listening homework to do between lessons so I use Amazon Prime's music streaming service to do my homework on Bach, Handel, Beethoven, Mozart and all the others. I have to admit I'm enjoying listening to Bach and all the famous composers a lot more than I expected. Maybe when you realize how hard it is to play and how beautiful it can be the appreciation grows. I don't like it all but I like a lot of it so much I made a playlist of piano pieces. I've probably got some Amazon algorithm music programmer wondering 'who is this guy that switches between Green Day and Bach'?


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Originally Posted by Chili_Time
Count me among the "it is different when you play it" crowd. All my life I have listened to rock but I have to admit playing the easy beginner classical pieces in the Faber books is a lot of fun. My teacher gives me listening homework to do between lessons so I use Amazon Prime's music streaming service to do my homework on Bach, Handel, Beethoven, Mozart and all the others. I have to admit I'm enjoying listening to Bach and all the famous composers a lot more than I expected. Maybe when you realize how hard it is to play and how beautiful it can be the appreciation grows. I don't like it all but I like a lot of it so much I made a playlist of piano pieces. I've probably got some Amazon algorithm music programmer wondering 'who is this guy that switches between Green Day and Bach'?



Yes I did the same. I have an iTunes piano playlist, with Beethoven sonatas, Chopin Nocturnes and Preludes, Debussy Mendelssohn, Bach, Rachmaninoff. I also have all kids of ruck up to and including the hard stuff like Limp Bizcuit, Chevelle, Tool, El Ten Eleven, Three Days Grace, Our Lady Piece etc.


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Hi all,
all of my lifetime I've been listening, singing and playing (to) different styles of music. I actually have no favourite genre. But favouritfavourite bands and
composers I do have.
So I was rather dissapointed when I realized that I'll never be able to Mozart in a decent way, no matter how much I would love to.
On the other hand, it's absolutely impossible to me to butcher Chopin's waltzes and nocturnes, even though I'm not particulary fond of them.
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I don't play much music that I wouldn't want to listen to at all, but there is a lot of music that I play that I wouldn't necessarily sit down and listen to like I used to the way I did back the old days. Meaning, back in the day I'd actually plan to sit around and "listen to records" but who does that anymore? I'd rather be playing. This may have something to do with my having been away from actually playing for many years. (Oddly enough, there's a thread elsewhere today on Russ Solomon and Tower Records. I worked for Tower for a while in the '80s and it reminded me just how much things have changed.)

I listen to a lot of EDM but I don't play it. I marvel at how it's produced, but I don't understand it all all. I have all the tools, I've watched other people make it, but it's still a complete mystery, compared to sitting down and playing something - classical, jazz, new age ... anything.

So as not to be obtuse, here's an example.


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I've listened to a tiny bit of EDM. Reminds me of a show I watched called Sense8. I doubt you find a lot of EDM fans here though.


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At age 3 I would listen to my mother play piano in the evening after I went to bed, and would hear Chopin and Schubert wafting down the halls to my room. So I guess it's not surprising that it is classical music, and only classical, that really captures my heart. I love the rapturous chords of Chopin, the flow and movement in Debussy, the drama in Tchaikovsky, the elegance and quirkiness in Grieg, the joyfulness of Mozart. I like Bartok, Czerny not so much.

I started piano only 7 years ago (at age 57) and since then I have found that I am pretty discriminating about even what classical music I like. I love Mozart and Beethoven, pretty much hate Schumann (but not everything that he wrote), and am dearly charmed by Chopin, Debussy, Ravel, and Gershwin. I am pretty neutral about new age/Einaudi music but I do find some appeal there.

Since I can't play anything particularly fast or complex, I tend to stick with very lyrical pieces and I tend to play them in a romantic fashion (more rubato, less adherence to beat). It has taken me a long time to recognize this, but it really helps knowing what I do like because it affects what I choose to learn next.

If I don't really, really like a piece, I won't usually try to learn it because I know that I will either tire or be heartily sick of the piece before it is anywhere near polished.

Anyhoo, my 2 cents.


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I doubt you find a lot of EDM fans here though.


I really hate what they call "EDM" but on the other hand I really like techno, mainly minimal like Robert Hood and Sven Vath. So much so that I actually still buy the odd bit of techno (and deep house) vinyl from time to time. Not so keen on the new stuff though.

Personally I tend towards aforesaid techno, and mainly rock and roll, of a more 50's and 60's persuasion, and a lot of 80's neo revival bands like The Cramps and Fuzztones and stuff (not very "neo" any more but you know what I mean). Also a lot of surf type music, psyche rock etc.

However, on the piano I'm into the romantic usual suspects, and I also like a bit of baroque on the harpsichord. This is what usually surprises people, as most know me as a rocker/techno guy, but no longer surprises me as I'm getting on now, and experience is telling me to mix it up a bit. I can hear a lot of similarities now between the types of music. The different centuries now seem to link up in a more coherent manner, as one kind of zooms out from the whole thing. And the whole becomes more than the sum of the parts.

Heavy metal, for example, directly borrows from baroque music, and a lot of the more emotional sounding bands such as, for example, Muse, on their first few albums, borrow heavily from the romantic composers. Albeit massively simplified. But still, once these links are made then further appreciation for both types of music can then be gained.

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In my childhood there was a lot of Beethoven playing on old LPs at home. Got to know the 9 symphonies quite well. Half way through high school got to know Bach. In 1985 the tri-centenary year of Bach & Handel in 1685, there were a lot of their music on radio. While in music class in school the teacher asked us to do a research paper on a famous composer. Took out a book on Bach from the library and then a recording of the French Suites. Fell in love with his music. Many years later started playing a lot of Bach on an electronic keyboard with other repertoire.

Over the years listened to a lot of Pop music from the 1980s Disco era including the Beatles, Bee Gees & Abba. Met a piano teacher with over 30 years of teaching experience with young children. She can't stand Pop music of any kind and thinks they are not pleasing to the ear.

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Also I've noticed it depends on what your ear is currently used to, for example, listen to Bach for four hours. Then listen to the Rolling Stones. Now listen to the Rolling Stones for four hours. Then listen to Bach.

In the first example, the Rolling Stones sounds strange, and in the second example, Bach sounds strange. I think a lot of people dismiss certain kinds of music because their ear is only used to listening to a particular thing, it's like a feedback loop.

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In answer to the title question of this thread, no. There's music I love, there's music I'm good enough to play, and I play things that fall into the intersection of those categories.


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I generally play the music I love to listen to. I don't subscribe to Schnabel's dictum that he'd only play music that's better than it can ever be played (in his opinion), which basically excludes almost everything but the Viennese classics. No Chopin, no Rachmaninov (or any Russians or Eastern Europeans), no Frenchies like Fauré, Ravel or Debussy - how can any pianist live without playing them??

The exceptions for me (i.e. when I play music I wouldn't want to listen to) are some decent pop tunes, which IMO are almost destroyed by all the techno stuff that frequently gets put into the songs these days - "we add them because we can" - distorting not just the tunes but also frequently the singers' voices for the sake of......trendiness? So, I just make my own versions of those tunes and get them back to basics, often making them sound like folk tunes in my arrangements.

After all, if Bartók can make decent piano music out of Hungarian and Romanian and Transylvanian folk tunes, I can make decent folkish piano music out of some current pop tunes grin.


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