2017 was our 20th year online!

Welcome to the Piano World Piano Forums
Over 3 million posts about pianos, digital pianos, and all types of keyboard instruments
Join the World's Largest Community of Piano Lovers (it's free)
It's Fun to Play the Piano ... Please Pass It On!

Shop our online store for music lovers
SEARCH
Piano Forums & Piano World
(ad)
Wessell Nickel & Gross
PianoForAll
(ad)
Best of Piano Buyer
 Best of Piano Buyer
(ad)
Faust Harrison Pianos
Faust Harrison 100+ Steinway pianos
Who's Online Now
33 members (clothearednincompo, dhts, CyberGene, Beowulf, ejlamas, astrotoy, Calavera, Einaudio, Badger1966, 6 invisible), 346 guests, and 391 robots.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
(ad)
Estonia Pianos
Estonia Pianos
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Hop To
WIRELESSLY connecting a keyboard to a home theatre system?
#2720239 03/10/18 09:02 AM
Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 15
V
Junior Member
OP Offline
Junior Member
V
Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 15
.

Does anyone know if it's possible to connect a keyboard to a home theatre system wirelessly?

I mean, the guys at Yamaha have an impressive range of speaker and home theatre systems, and I know you can connect e.g., a smartphone to the systems via bluetooth, and I know there are MIDI to bluetooth systems available, but I'm wondering if, e.g., a home theatre system that is primarily set up to be linked to the television can also be set up to additionally - wirelessly - work with, e.g., a digital piano?

.


I've got nothing clever to say...
Re: WIRELESSLY connecting a keyboard to a home theatre system?
Vijay '82 #2720242 03/10/18 09:19 AM
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 5,879
A
5000 Post Club Member
Offline
5000 Post Club Member
A
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 5,879
You wouldn't want a digital running through Bluetooth because there is substantial delay (latency). You don't notice this when you use a phone to play music, but when playing an instrument, the delay is too much. Stick with cables.

Re: WIRELESSLY connecting a keyboard to a home theatre system?
ando #2720249 03/10/18 10:28 AM
Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 1,667
1000 Post Club Member
Offline
1000 Post Club Member
Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 1,667
Originally Posted by ando
You wouldn't want a digital running through Bluetooth because there is substantial delay. You don't notice this when you use a phone to play music, but when playing an instrument, the delay is too much. Stick with cables.


+1

I've tried it. There's just too much latency, unfortunately.

Re: WIRELESSLY connecting a keyboard to a home theatre system?
Vijay '82 #2720316 03/10/18 02:08 PM
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 12,321
Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member
Offline
Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 12,321
Even if wireless had no latency ... why use it?

Wireless is for portability.
The home theater system is not portable.
The piano is not portable.

So why bother with wireless?

Re: WIRELESSLY connecting a keyboard to a home theatre system?
MacMacMac #2720327 03/10/18 02:41 PM
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 5,585
A
5000 Post Club Member
Offline
5000 Post Club Member
A
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 5,585
Originally Posted by MacMacMac
The piano is not portable.

Many are...

Re: WIRELESSLY connecting a keyboard to a home theatre system?
MacMacMac #2720434 03/10/18 10:04 PM
Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 1,667
1000 Post Club Member
Offline
1000 Post Club Member
Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 1,667
Originally Posted by MacMacMac
Even if wireless had no latency ... why use it?

Wireless is for portability.
The home theater system is not portable.
The piano is not portable.

So why bother with wireless?


In my case I was trying to eliminate any wired connection at all to my iPad, which is the only thing that moves around. All the pieces worked ok separately, but as a combo, no.

Re: WIRELESSLY connecting a keyboard to a home theatre system?
MacMacMac #2720481 03/11/18 07:41 AM
Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 15
V
Junior Member
OP Offline
Junior Member
V
Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 15
.

Originally Posted by MacMacMac
Even if wireless had no latency ... why use it?

Wireless is for portability.
The home theater system is not portable.
The piano is not portable.

So why bother with wireless?



My home theatre system is linked to the TV, I wondered if I could wirelessly add the digital piano to the "network" - i.e., to avoid additional cabling around the edge of the room (it's going to look untidy).


.


I've got nothing clever to say...
Re: WIRELESSLY connecting a keyboard to a home theatre system?
Vijay '82 #2720491 03/11/18 09:38 AM
Joined: Jul 2016
Posts: 169
C
Full Member
Offline
Full Member
C
Joined: Jul 2016
Posts: 169
The closest device I found was a Bluetooth device that you can plug into an "output" so it transmits, and then pair with a receiver or a receiving audio device. While it works, it turned out mostly to be an epic fail; it can't keep a clean constant connection or more so the speed. It's a small device so there's probably no or a small buffer, in any case, I wanted to use this for late night TV via headphones, which kinda works; but for what you're trying, it would work but has terrible performance.

Re: WIRELESSLY connecting a keyboard to a home theatre system?
Vijay '82 #2720496 03/11/18 10:22 AM
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 1,965
K
1000 Post Club Member
Offline
1000 Post Club Member
K
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 1,965
Bluetooth transmitter/receiver combinations vary in their latency, but I suspect you'd have to try a lot of them before you found a combination that worked adequately. I suspect that if you want latency-free transmission, you'd have to look for something specifically designed for on-stage audio use. Both analogue and digital systems are available, but good quality devices of this type tend to be expensive.

It doesn't seem at all unreasonable to me to want this kind of connection to be wireless. Home theatre systems are increasingly wireless, which irks me because I tore my house apart to install mine, before such equipment was affordable.

Re: WIRELESSLY connecting a keyboard to a home theatre system?
Vijay '82 #2720506 03/11/18 11:23 AM
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 12,321
Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member
Offline
Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 12,321
How about one of THESE ?

This is an updated device that operates at 2.4 GHz. It avoids the 600 MHz band that the FCC will be taking away in the near future, rendering some existing equipment obsolete.

This set included both a transmitter and a receiver. The transmitter's phone plug should fit right into your piano. The receiver also has a phone plug, which will need an adapter to plug into an AV receiver.

BTW, it's for a single audio channel. Do you need to carry two channels?

Re: WIRELESSLY connecting a keyboard to a home theatre system?
Vijay '82 #2720509 03/11/18 12:00 PM
Joined: Aug 2017
Posts: 924
E
500 Post Club Member
Offline
500 Post Club Member
E
Joined: Aug 2017
Posts: 924
I am outdated in this kind of technology (long ago I avidly read/researched whatever technology related in music or otherwise) but... Isn't there anything Wi-Fi based that could work for this?


Kawai ES8, Roland RD2000, Yamaha AG06 mixer, Presonus Eris E5 monitors, Sennheiser HD598SR phones.
Re: WIRELESSLY connecting a keyboard to a home theatre system?
Vijay '82 #2720560 03/11/18 05:28 PM
Joined: Jul 2016
Posts: 169
C
Full Member
Offline
Full Member
C
Joined: Jul 2016
Posts: 169
If this is all in the same room, your best bet is a Reciever that has "wireless" speakers. Then DP > receiver > sound to wireless to speakers.


Moderated by  Piano World 

Link Copied to Clipboard
(ad)
Pianoteq
PianoTeq Karsten Collection
(ad)
PianoDisc

PianoDisc
(ad)
Piano Life Saver - Dampp Chaser
Dampp Chaser Piano Life Saver
(ad)
Mason & Hamlin Pianos
What's Hot!!
News from the Piano World
Our October 2020 Free Piano Newsletter is Here!
---------------------
3,000,000+!
------------------
Posting Pictures on the Forums
-------------------
Forums RULES & HELP
-------------------
ADVERTISE on Piano World
New Topics - Multiple Forums
Just got a 1985 Baldwin L - thanks!
by goodloe - 10/22/20 11:35 AM
8DIO 1901 Upright Studio Piano - 76% off
by newer player - 10/22/20 10:19 AM
Download Sheet Music
Virtual Sheet Music - Classical Sheet Music Downloads
Forum Statistics
Forums41
Topics202,355
Posts3,016,213
Members98,986
Most Online15,252
Mar 21st, 2010
Please Support Our Advertisers


Faust Harrison 100+ Steinways

Dampp Chaser Piano Life Saver

 Best of Piano Buyer

PianoTeq Bechstein
Visit our online store for gifts for music lovers

Virtual Sheet Music - Classical Sheet Music Downloads



 
Help keep the forums up and running with a donation, any amount is appreciated!
Or by becoming a Subscribing member! Thank-you.
Donate   Subscribe
 
Our Piano Related Classified Ads
| Dealers | Tuners | Lessons | Movers | Restorations | Pianos For Sale | Sell Your Piano |

Advertise on Piano World
| Subscribe | Piano World | PianoSupplies.com | Advertise on Piano World |
| |Contact | Privacy | Legal | About Us | Site Map | Free Newsletter |


copyright 1997 - 2020 Piano World ® all rights reserved
No part of this site may be reproduced without prior written permission
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.4