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Online Piano Party #2720398
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With some ABF regulars wondering if an online recital would be possible, it gets me thinking about the feasibility of an online piano party. The idea has been tossed around a little before. My idea would be to pick a date, preferably a weekend in about a month, to host a live streaming event. It would be informal; participants can play one piece, up to 5-10 minutes depending on number of participants, or just watch. You can reprise a prior recital piece ( which would be presumably polished) or try something new; restarts allowed, etc.

We could try to find a time when ppl from several time zones would be awake; as an example, 4 pm EST(FL, NY), it would be 1 pm PST (California), 9 pm GMT (London), 10 pm CET (Italy), 8 am AEDT (Sidney). That covers a great deal of this forum.

I believe video conferencing software exists that would make this possible....if we could pull it off, it might be epic!

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Re: Online Piano Party [Re: cmb13] #2720400
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Re: Online Piano Party [Re: cmb13] #2720401
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It sounds like fun. Though I am not sure how it would work. Skype?
I don’t know how many people from Italy/France/CET zone would participate- it’s not that we wouldn’t be up at that hour, but rather that we mostly live in apartments and you can’t really play piano at that hour.

I do / can play late in the evening but I use the Silent feature and turn the volume down low or use headphones.
I know it’s tricky to accommodate everyone- possibly impossible!

Even so, I think it is a great idea!
Worth a try!


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I take part in an online advanced performance workshop once a month with my teacher. We have students from all over the world, and it is really fun to meet each other. We use Zoom, and it works quite well. We perform our pieces for each other, as well as technical exercises. She sets up time by GMT, and we have had participants from the US, Canada, Britain, Spain, India, Malaysia, and Saudi Arabia. The Workshops are generally 11:00 GMT or 16:00 GMT on Saturday and Sunday. Those times might work for this.

I would definitely participate is a PianoWorld online party!

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Re: Online Piano Party [Re: cmb13] #2720751
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I think that a "gotomeeting" type program that is free might work.
'Stride previously called "hall" is a one alternative.

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It is free or paid at $3/mo that allows you to cancel anytime.
Meaning at most you would pay 3 bucks for the online session .
Also it allows unlimited attendees and time duration.

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p.s. if you have forelocks for Firefox you can tell what time it would be in any timezone.

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Re: Online Piano Party [Re: cmb13] #2720819
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Zoom is great for this kind of thing.

Re: Online Piano Party [Re: cmb13] #2720885
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Zoom looks good to me (and I would be very interested in participating.) If we were to do this as a regular thing, I would be willing to chip in a month or two for a license to allow longer than 40 minutes. I love my local piano forum, and would love love love and online version!



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Re: Online Piano Party [Re: cmb13] #2720892
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Great! We have about 5? Maybe we'll make a list with username and location / time zone and figure it out.

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Re: Online Piano Party [Re: cmb13] #2720935
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I am interested, on the west coast.


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I'm very interested. Am in USA, Central Time Zone.


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Re: Online Piano Party [Re: cmb13] #2720985
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So Far.....probably enough for a test....maybe a weekend in April?

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Re: Online Piano Party [Re: cmb13] #2721032
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Could I join you just to watch and see how it all works this time? I'm also in Italy CET. I don't want to commit to playing just yet and besides I'm not even sure that my Internet connection is good enough for that, I am on LTE and if I happen to be in the country that weekend my connection could be weak.


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Re: Online Piano Party [Re: cmb13] #2721057
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I would participate if I can. My weekends are quite busy but if I have enough notice I can schedule it in.

Re: Online Piano Party [Re: cmb13] #2721088
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Another idea would be to post a thread asking for video submissions for a few days only and theme it to a country with the above like criteria
"post a video with an intro of 5-10 minutes of the said area with personal information you've had e.g. pictures, places or experiences,even food recipes! and a piano piece of your choice"
Vimeo is now accessible to anyone and also a link-able vid on pianoworld. I assume someone could close the thread too once submissions are done.
--so that's another idea ....
In a big way , it's less expensive and nerve racking than travel.

A live party would be pretty hard to accomplish without very firm limits to time and what to present by the presenter. I think making a ghost account somehow on you-tube and presenting a VIDEO of any duration once every 6 months for players to comment on would suffice and be less confusing. Also, people are able to leave comments on you tube so there’s feedback.
The differences in this and a piano bar or recital would be
the less formal aspect of being able to introduce yourself, or talk about anything piano-wise e.g. like what you use to record, or play a piece you like.

For fun I guess you could theme them too, like swiss alps- requiring green knee knockers (lol), or I don’t know… the Bach era ( in humor wear a wig). Or require a food recipe or work of art or something indigenous to the theme for an intro
For instance, I could imagine maybe someone introducing themselves by a vid making homemade ravoli, then say playing “Ave Maria’ on their piano.
The downside (or maybe upside ) is not being “live”.
Maybe I’m way off course, but it is MHO.

In a way I think the first one should be, if it flies that is "your hometown or area "etc......


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Re: Online Piano Party [Re: cmb13] #2721096
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Very interesting, I would participate. At work, we use Google Hangout for conference and meeting. It's free and works on Mac, Windows and Linux.

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Re: Online Piano Party [Re: cmb13] #2721097
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Google hangouts works too. Some of us tested it awhile back in the thread below.

http://forum.pianoworld.com/ubbthreads.php/topics/2701395/1.html


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call me a -spanner in the works- , but a goto would feel like work.


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So Far.....probably enough for a test....maybe a weekend in April?

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I think those are some good thoughts, pianoprimo, I like the idea of a video that's a little more informal...however, I feel like it would create pressure to perfect / polish like in the recitals; my idea is less to polish, but more to just play, hesitations and pauses and all if needed. I personally wouldn't submit a terrible performance to a recital but wouldn't be adverse to playing a partial song or an idea to folks on a live recital.

The google hangouts looks like the best bet yet. I haven't used it - does only one active person speak or does it record everyone simultaneously? Don't want it to be too much of a mess. We could make a list and try to stick with it in order if needed.


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Re: Online Piano Party [Re: cmb13] #2721214
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For Google Hangout, everyone can talk at the same time like in a conference call or mute their microphone. The participants can choose which camera they want to see. No need for a camera or a microphone, if someone just wants to watch.

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From my work experience , one person is the manager of the "hangout" and must share their desktop screen with others to see what is being coordinated, though -other//you - can use a web-cam when playing talking etc , but still, it is one at a time with a manager/coordinator so to speak in managing the meet up..

I'm responding because I like the idea of getting the feel of other areas, and maybe even "getting" others experiences in the process of different cultures , countries and areas- who are pianists. But, honestly I can't see an easy workaround with a "goto" hangout.

MAYBE...A ."post a video" and have a free chat setup contributors. e.g. a chat session lasting a couple hours .[after submitting ], but not a goto..

I'd even be willing to do a sample video of how i would do one submit if it ever would occur.

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I'm interested.
U.S., Eastern Standard Time (but I'm not an early riser).

I would still encourage people to host or participate in as many in-person piano gatherings as possible.
There's something about sharing music, food & drink, and conversation (between performances) that enhances the experience.

But I do understand the challenges of putting piano parties together.

Speaking of which, we (Kathy and I) are discussing putting together another European Piano Tour like we did in 2011.
I've been contacted by a few people expressing an interest in participating, more on this later.

I see a few different ideas about the app to use for streaming video/audio live.
I would suggest anyone planning to participate test the apps well ahead of time. Bandwidth and speed will be a factor.


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Re: Online Piano Party [Re: cmb13] #2721310
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I am not familiar with Google Hangouts, but with Zoom all of the participants can be seen and speak at the same time. One person does have to host the meeting, and they can switch the main screen to the person performing, and everyone is in little screens at the top. The way we get around the 40 minute limit is we simply restart the meeting when it cuts off. That gives you another 40 minutes. There is no lag with Zoom, and it has worked well for the performance workshops I have done. I am quite willing to try Google Hangouts though.

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just thought I'd throw this out there...it's free and easy to use and has group chats.
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I'm going to be away for a week or so but will check in on mobile. Let's hope for a date in mid April?


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Re: Online Piano Party [Re: piano_primo_1] #2723012
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ICQ was very popular 20 years ago, I didn't now it was still alive.

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just thought I'd throw this out there...it's free and easy to use and has group chats.
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Another option-
I think this might work if a few steps are taken by who'd would want to join.
--it’d still be free, meaning no charge involved and secure!—
FIRST 3 STEPS OPTIONAL
Step 1 [for ease of deleting everything in one step]
First if you don’t have “Firefox” , download it.
From there create a separate profile from default in case you decide you want to delete the whole shebang.
On the desktop, click the properties of the firefox icon and add a “switch”
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After quotation marks add “-p –no-remote” without quotation marks
Thus when you click on your desktop icon you can add a profile.
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That’s step 1 completed.

Step 2.
Register for a mail.com account and use your pianoworld “handle” to register the mail.
You don’t need a cell or telephone for this process.
All mail is online.
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Step 3.
Register with stride free- STRIDE.COM
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And Login as per instructions given: “check email”… etc…
Once you’re logged in it’ll ask you to join a group.
Choose or type
“Virtual-piano-gather rooms”
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go to settings and make sure you handle is the same as you pianoworld name, and type “Pianoworld member” for ‘organization”
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Almost DONE!!!!!
You’re there!
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You could either 1. chat 2.do videos live or 3.meet with up to 20 people in one room!
But, if that’s not enough add another room or meeting during the session for more people.
That’s all I have …..but I’d like to try this out , for fun anyway!!! Even if it doesn’t work, it was worth a try!
Note to cover all time zones a session would have to be open for a 4 hour period preferably on a weekend, (1pm to 5pm EST) that would cover zones from California, USA-7:00 PDT to Moscow, +3:00 MSK, everyone having at least 2 hours to do “live” video.
You can see how it’d fit the timezones below.
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at 1 pm EST, USA
it is
9am Calif , USA
5pm London, England
9pm Moscow
SO that was work....who knows I'll probably not make it if it does come about smile
Maybe it's too complicated.. .


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Whew. That’s complicated at first glance!!
I will have some time tomorrow to look into it.
For me, it would gave to be a Saturday as I can’t play my acoustic on Sunday.
Of course if the majority are available on Sunday- go for it.
If I get it going I would love to test it with someone!


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I'm willing for a 10 min test run next Saturday, i work nights, so it has to be short. for a test
I'd figure afterwards if a success, I'll post a first virtual piano bar thread, and leave the rest, as far as dates ( like every 6 months?) to who'd ever plan the rest or popular vote.
Still, I'd post one pre recorded vid of something about where I live, a recipe or something akin. that's limited to 5 mins in the thread.
Also note that stride allows you to download the app to an android , so you can have two cams at once.( I Ithink but haven't tried on my smart phone yet.)


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