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Phoenix Piano Display in London #2716948
02/24/18 06:00 PM
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Were you excited by the news of the Phoenix Piano Display in London opening on February 23rd? Well, I was, as I had already planned a trip over from Norway to London this week with my family. We stayed at a location between the Waterloo Station and London Eye, overlooking a concealed Big Ben which was up for restoration.

Now, how do you append a visit to the House of Phoenix onto an already busy schedule? As luck would have it, Friday was the only day that was not pre-planned. On their web site there are a number of options listed for transferring from where you are to where you ought to be; in the piano display room. Included in this list was the river boat which is an ideal option if you are visiting from overseas as in my case.

After taking the kids to London Eye, Madame Tussauds and Harry Potter outside of London it was time to hit the river Thames on Friday with the Thames Clipper boat service. Just as you would take a boat on the river Spree when visiting Berlin to see a C. Bechstein, the Thames offers an excuse to navigate down to the Greenwich Pier for a Phoenix Display. I was accompanied by my son who was equally enthused by the trip and the destination.

After a sedate start with the boat we picked up speed after London Bridge at which point the passangers started to miss their exits... We managed to disembark at Greenwich Pier however, and headed for the House of Phoenix, which I had read was 6 minutes walk away; it turned out out closer to 15 minutes of brisk walk alongside the river though, which was quite pleasant.

As we entered the building the first thing that happened was... not a lot. A person sat in what looked like a reception minding his own business so we just continued on inside. Something was about to happen though. From their website I knew there would be some event sometime in the day, and a quick look at my arm wrist told me that we were not late, nor too early.

I spotted the 130 piano and a 170 grand from Hurstwood. There were some brochures, price lists, and two different CD’s featuring Anton Lyakhovsky and Oliver Poole under a display TV in off position. For an opening day it was rather... empty.

Can we just sit down and play? I am a bit bewildered. But after a a good 5 minutes of contemplation I decided a bit of light playing to these fine instruments could do them no harm, but as I reached for the piano a nice man approached and asked: ‘Are you here for the Chinese New Year?’, while at the same time offering us what I assume were wrapped sweets out of a tray. I was caught off guard as I had the distinct impression that the Chinese New Year for 2018 was Friday, 16th of February.

There is an expression ‘This is all Greek to me’, now that is quite meaningless if you are Greek; so the Greeks have another saying, it is all Chinese to me. And as I looked around, it was indeed all Chinese, apart from the pianos and a number of people cleaning, as if in a hurry. There was obviously going to be some sort of official celebration later, so just as well we missed it.

After clearing out that the goal for our visit was literally within hands reach, he gave us some leaflets and a price list and confirmed that we were indeed entitled to try out the instruments, so that was a relief.

The 170 was exhibited in burl walnut fall fascia, lyre and desk. The underlid was in maple. The remaining was finished in black high polish polyester. All which I believe comes as standard unless requested otherwise. Underneath you could see the carbon fiber sound board, which was covered in wood veneer on the top to
‘protect it from UV light and slightly modify the sound. ‘
trigalg693 wrote in another thread. It also looks good. The Phoenix bridge aggraffe coupling system was also easy to spot. On either side of the instrument there were some oversized stickers showing the Phoenix. They were either put on in a hurry or suffered from sun exposure, the latter being less likely. Subjectively I like the name, but find the logo a bit over the top in size and quantity.

Both instruments were a joy to play, so much that neither of us wanted to let the other play. Be warned, go alone if you can... The 170 had a surprising body. The base could easily fool you belonging to a much larger instrument. I know it sounds cliche but I fairly confident this could have been measured objectively, but don’t take my word for it, try it out for yourself. The dynamics were great on both instruments and overall it gave a very satisfying playing experience. If you want a smaller grand, this 170 should be on your list of instruments to evaluate. The room acoustics was not great, despite that we both enjoyed ourselves immensely. Unfortunately time was limited, as is the patience of a nine year old.

Next time I am in England, I would be tempted to take a train from Victoria Station...

Ok, that was enough typing on a phone. Already back in Oslo.

Some pictures:
http://forum.pianoworld.com//ubbthreads.php/galleries/2716963.html#Post2716963

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Re: Phoenix Piano Display in London [Re: Skjalg] #2717027
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How fun, thanks for sharing your experience. I have been wanting to try the Phoenix pianos for several years.

Re: Phoenix Piano Display in London [Re: Skjalg] #2717037
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Yeah, those Phoenix logos are a bit much. I'd pay extra to not have them.

Re: Phoenix Piano Display in London [Re: Skjalg] #2717146
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The great thing about Phoenix is that you can fully customize the finish to your liking at no additional charge providing you don't choose more exotic finishes.




Re: Phoenix Piano Display in London [Re: Skjalg] #2717320
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Are you aware that all your pictures are rotated?

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Re: Phoenix Piano Display in London [Re: Skjalg] #2717330
02/26/18 11:06 AM
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I would like to try out Phoenix 170 grand one day.

Too bad they don't have anything in display in Asia.

BTW, is there an option to remove the Phoenix logo on the fall board?

Re: Phoenix Piano Display in London [Re: Beemer] #2717335
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Originally Posted by Beemer
Are you aware that all your pictures are rotated?
Ian


Yes, I am. That is how PianoWorld treated them when I uploaded them directly from the iPhone.I did not observe any way to change it. Basically all landscape photos are treated this way.

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Re: Phoenix Piano Display in London [Re: Kenny Cheng] #2717340
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Originally Posted by Kenny Cheng
I would like to try out Phoenix 170 grand one day.
Too bad they don't have anything in display in Asia.
BTW, is there an option to remove the Phoenix logo on the fall board?

If you want to try out Phoenix 170 in order to buy one, I guess a flight ticket and hotel for 1 or 2 nights is not going to add that much to the total cost.
There might be others in your region that has already bought one. You could contact Phoenix to ask.

I assume that could you order without the logo. In theory it would be less work. You have the option to add all sorts of things, so why not.

Re: Phoenix Piano Display in London [Re: Beemer] #2717357
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The logos also turn me off. Feels "aggressive" to me for some reason.


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Re: Phoenix Piano Display in London [Re: Skjalg] #2717363
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It might partly be due to the level of detail in the logo that draws your attention. When I first noticed the dolphins I immediately thought of the message the Dolphins left when leaving earth just before it was demolished in favor of the new intergalactic super highway: “So Long, and Thanks for All the Fish” in the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy (Douglas Adams).

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Re: Phoenix Piano Display in London [Re: Skjalg] #2717373
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Yes I tend to agree. They are very innovative and I'm all for that, but I'm not a fan of how they look. I think they should go for a much more modern, minimal look i.e. lose the logos altogether and just have a simple, clean decal in a modern font. And lose the turned legs.

Re: Phoenix Piano Display in London [Re: DiarmuidD] #2717375
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+1 for that.

Re: Phoenix Piano Display in London [Re: Skjalg] #2717405
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Isn't the side logo just a temporary vinyl sticker or permanent?




Re: Phoenix Piano Display in London [Re: Miguel Rey] #2717411
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Originally Posted by Miguel Rey
Isn't the side logo just a temporary vinyl sticker or permanent?


I hope it's just temporary advertising given how poorly it's been applied! From what I've seen their workmanship is a bit nicer than that decal smile


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The side logo is a sticker, as can be seen from one of the photos, see link at the end of the first post. However, there are two additional logos on the fallboard. They are not stickers.

Re: Phoenix Piano Display in London [Re: Skjalg] #2717534
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Hi everyone,

Thanks for the lovely comments.

The logos were a temporary measure for a recent concert. They are to be removed very soon! Apologies for the confusion, they were not intended to permanent.

Thanks for your other comments too, we appreciate the feedback and will make some changes. Early days!

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